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Cyclone792 · 02-17-2006, 01:57 AM

Vote for all STARTING PITCHERS with last names beginning with Q-Z that you believe should be in the Hall of Fame. This is a multiple-choice poll so you're allowed to vote for more than one player.

19th century (i.e. pre 1903): Need 2/5 support
Early Modern (roughly 1903-1945): Need 1/2 support
Integration (roughly 1945-1970): Need 5/8 support
Post Integration (roughly 1970-present): Need 2/3 support

Code:

Player               Innings    ERA+       Era
Jack Quinn           3,920.1    114    Early Modern to WWII
Old Hoss Radbourn    4,535.1    120    19th Century
Rick Reuschel        3,548.1    114    Post Integration
Jerry Reuss          3,669.2    100    Post Integration
Eppa Rixey           4,494.2    115    Early Modern to WWII
Robin Roberts        4,688.2    113    Integration
Eddie Rommel         2,556.1    121    Early Modern to WWII
Ed Reulbach          2,632.1    123    Early Modern to WWII
Red Ruffing          4,344.0    109    Early Modern to WWII
Amos Rusie           3,769.2    130    19th Century
Nolan Ryan           5,386.0    112    Post Integration
Bret Saberhagen      2,562.2    126    Post Integration
Tom Seaver           4,782.2    127    Post Integration
Bob Shawkey          2,937.0    113    Early Modern to WWII

Code:

Player               Innings    ERA+       Era
Urban Shocker        2,681.2    124    Early Modern to WWII
Warren Spahn         5,243.2    118    Integration
Al Spalding          2,890.2    142    19th Century
Dave Stieb           2,895.1    122    Post Integration
Don Sutton           5,282.1    108    Post Integration
Frank Tanana         4,188.1    106    Post Integration
Jesse Tannehill      2,750.1    114    Early Modern to WWII
Luis Tiant           3,486.1    114    Post Integration
Virgil Trucks        2,682.1    116    Integration
George Uhle          3,119.2    105    Early Modern to WWII
Dazzy Vance          2,966.2    125    Early Modern to WWII
Hippo Vaughn         2,730.0    120    Early Modern to WWII
Rube Waddell         2,961.1    134    Early Modern to WWII
Ed Walsh             2,964.1    145    Early Modern to WWII
Bucky Walters        3,104.2    115    Early Modern to WWII

Code:

Player               Innings    ERA+       Era
Lon Warneke          2,782.1    119    Early Modern to WWII
Bob Welch            3,092.0    106    Post Integration
Mickey Welch         4,802.0    113    19th Century
Earl Whitehill       3,564.2    100    Early Modern to WWII
Vic Willis           3,966.0    118    Early Modern to WWII
Smoky Joe Wood       1,436.1    146    Early Modern to WWII
Early Wynn           4,564.0    106    Integration
Cy Young             7,354.2    138    Early Modern to WWII

Chip R · 02-17-2006, 09:10 AM

Pffft! I don't know why anyone would vote for Cy Young. How many Cy Young awards did he win, huh?

RedsBaron · 02-17-2006, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chip R

Pffft! I don't know why anyone would vote for Cy Young. How many Cy Young awards did he win, huh?

True, but he always came to play, gave 110%, and "knew how to win."

Puffy · 02-17-2006, 11:42 PM

I voted for

Ryan
Seaver
Spahn
Spaulding
Rube Waddell
Ed Walsh
Young
Smokey Joe Wood

RedsBaron · 02-18-2006, 08:27 AM

Puffy:
You didn't vote for Robin Roberts?

Puffy · 02-18-2006, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedsBaron

Puffy:
You didn't vote for Robin Roberts?

No - I missed him. I look at ERA over league average and I missed Roberts.

Big Klu · 02-22-2006, 11:01 PM

I voted for:

Radbourn, Rixey, Roberts, Reulbach, Ruffing, Rusie, Ryan, Seaver, Spalding, Spahn, Sutton, Vance, Waddell, Walsh, Wynn, and Young.

I thought that Young, Seaver, Spahn, Ryan, Roberts, and Spalding were the automatic choices.

M2 · 02-22-2006, 11:56 PM

Vance didn't win his first game until he was 31 and wound up with 197 wins. The guy absolutely dominated the NL in the 1920s. He's sort of the reverse Waddell, who was just about done by age 31.

Hard to ask sympathy for a Yankee, but Ruffing was the ace on probably the best teams of all time, the 1936-39 Bombers. For me that tips the scales for him.

If Radbourn had only pitched his 1884 season (59-12, 1.38, 678.2 IP, 441 Ks), I'd have still voted for him.

Cyclone792 · 02-24-2006, 02:32 PM

Vance was a nasty pitcher for a couple seasons ... absolutely dominant.

My ballot:

Radbourn
Rixey
Roberts
Rusie
Ryan
Seaver
Spahn
Sutton
Tiant
Vance
Waddell
Walsh
Walters
Wynn
Young

Eppa Rixey and Bucky Walters are admittingly homer calls for me.

Cyclone792 · 03-20-2006, 11:47 PM

Code:

RedsZone Hall of Fame - Starting Pitchers Q-Z

Player                  % of votes
Old Hoss Radbourn     48.18 percent
Eppa Rixey            59.26 percent
Robin Roberts         66.67 percent
Nolan Ryan            85.19 percent
Tom Seaver            92.59 percent
Warren Spahn          92.59 percent
Al Spalding           44.44 percent
Rube Waddell          66.67 percent
Ed Walsh              62.96 percent
Early Wynn            62.96 percent
Cy Young              92.59 percent

We've got 11 more starting pitchers elected in this grouping, bringing the final tally to 32 starters.

02-17-2006, 09:10 AM	#2
Chip R Rally Onion! Join Date: May 2000 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 33,223	Re: RedsZone Hall of Fame - Starting Pitchers, Q-Z Pffft! I don't know why anyone would vote for Cy Young. How many Cy Young awards did he win, huh? __________________ The Rally Onion wants 150 fans before Opening Day. http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rally-...24872650873160

02-17-2006, 11:42 PM	#4
Puffy Puffy 3:16 Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Panama City Beach Posts: 13,669	Re: RedsZone Hall of Fame - Starting Pitchers, Q-Z I voted for Ryan Seaver Spahn Spaulding Rube Waddell Ed Walsh Young Smokey Joe Wood __________________ "I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum... and I'm all out of bubble gum." - - Rowdy Roddy Piper "It takes a big man to admit when he is wrong. I am not a big man" - - Fletch

02-18-2006, 08:27 AM	#5
RedsBaron Big Red Machine Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Out Wayne Posts: 22,373	Re: RedsZone Hall of Fame - Starting Pitchers, Q-Z Puffy: You didn't vote for Robin Roberts? __________________ "Hey...Dad. Wanna Have A Catch?" Kevin Costner in "Field Of Dreams."

02-22-2006, 11:01 PM	#7
Big Klu Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cambridge, OH Posts: 16,274	Re: RedsZone Hall of Fame - Starting Pitchers, Q-Z I voted for: Radbourn, Rixey, Roberts, Reulbach, Ruffing, Rusie, Ryan, Seaver, Spalding, Spahn, Sutton, Vance, Waddell, Walsh, Wynn, and Young. I thought that Young, Seaver, Spahn, Ryan, Roberts, and Spalding were the automatic choices. __________________ Americans love a winner. Americans will not tolerate a loser....Americans play to win all of the time. I wouldn't give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed...the very idea of losing is hateful to an American. Gen. George S. Patton, Jr.

02-22-2006, 11:56 PM	#8
M2 Posting in Dynarama Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Boston Posts: 26,668	Re: RedsZone Hall of Fame - Starting Pitchers, Q-Z Vance didn't win his first game until he was 31 and wound up with 197 wins. The guy absolutely dominated the NL in the 1920s. He's sort of the reverse Waddell, who was just about done by age 31. Hard to ask sympathy for a Yankee, but Ruffing was the ace on probably the best teams of all time, the 1936-39 Bombers. For me that tips the scales for him. If Radbourn had only pitched his 1884 season (59-12, 1.38, 678.2 IP, 441 Ks), I'd have still voted for him. __________________ Baseball isn't a magic trick ... it doesn't get spoiled if you figure out how it works. - gonelong I'm witchcrafting everybody.

View Poll Results: Which starting pitchers with last names Q-Z belong in the RedsZone HOF?
Jack Quinn	2	7.41%
Old Hoss Radbourn	13	48.15%
Rick Reuschel	0	0%
Jerry Reuss	1	3.70%
Eppa Rixey	16	59.26%
Robin Roberts	18	66.67%
Eddie Rommel	3	11.11%
Ed Reulbach	3	11.11%
Red Ruffing	6	22.22%
Amos Rusie	7	25.93%
Nolan Ryan	23	85.19%
Bret Saberhagen	3	11.11%
Tom Seaver	25	92.59%
Bob Shawkey	0	0%
Urban Shocker	4	14.81%
Warren Spahn	25	92.59%
Al Spalding	12	44.44%
Dave Stieb	1	3.70%
Don Sutton	10	37.04%
Frank Tanana	1	3.70%
Jesse Tannehill	1	3.70%
Luis Tiant	5	18.52%
Virgil Trucks	1	3.70%
George Uhle	0	0%
Dazzy Vance	11	40.74%
Hippo Vaughn	3	11.11%
Rube Waddell	18	66.67%
Ed Walsh	17	62.96%
Bucky Walters	11	40.74%
Lon Warneke	2	7.41%
Bob Welch	0	0%
Mickey Welch	2	7.41%
Earl Whitehill	0	0%
Vic Willis	1	3.70%
Smoky Joe Wood	10	37.04%
Early Wynn	17	62.96%
Cy Young	25	92.59%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 27. You may not vote on this poll

02-24-2006, 02:32 PM	#9
Cyclone792 Playoffs Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 6,233	Re: RedsZone Hall of Fame - Starting Pitchers, Q-Z Vance was a nasty pitcher for a couple seasons ... absolutely dominant. My ballot: Radbourn Rixey Roberts Rusie Ryan Seaver Spahn Sutton Tiant Vance Waddell Walsh Walters Wynn Young Eppa Rixey and Bucky Walters are admittingly homer calls for me. __________________ *Barry Larkin - HOF, 2012* *Put an end to the Lost Decade.*

03-20-2006, 11:47 PM	#10
Cyclone792 Playoffs Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 6,233	Re: RedsZone Hall of Fame - Starting Pitchers, Q-Z Code: RedsZone Hall of Fame - Starting Pitchers Q-Z Player % of votes Old Hoss Radbourn 48.18 percent Eppa Rixey 59.26 percent Robin Roberts 66.67 percent Nolan Ryan 85.19 percent Tom Seaver 92.59 percent Warren Spahn 92.59 percent Al Spalding 44.44 percent Rube Waddell 66.67 percent Ed Walsh 62.96 percent Early Wynn 62.96 percent Cy Young 92.59 percent We've got 11 more starting pitchers elected in this grouping, bringing the final tally to 32 starters. __________________ *Barry Larkin - HOF, 2012* *Put an end to the Lost Decade.*

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