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Buckeye33 · 03-28-2006, 04:37 PM

What would you expect in return?

I'm always looking to make deals in fantasy leagues, I think that's what makes them the most fun. In one of my leagues I have Pujols and am actually thinking about maybe dealing him.

5x5 10 team

R-HR-RBI-SB-AVG

Roster:

Mauer
Pujols
Helton
Hafner
Iguchi
Glaus
Jeter
Damon
Holliday
Ordonez
Blalock
Polanco

Oswalt
Carpenter
Lackey
Bonderman
Capuano
Isringhausen
Turnbow
Foulke
Shields

I was thinking of trying to get maybe Utley and a good SP or RP for Pujols. I feel Helton will have a rebound year and while there will still be a big difference in HR and R, in this 5x5 league I think the only thing Pujols will dominate Helton in will be HRs.

What type of package would it take for you to move Pujols?

Red Leader · 03-28-2006, 04:44 PM

You have the depth to do it.

I'd be looking for some OF help (not sold that Ordonez is going to rebound) and Damon and Holliday as your 1-2 is definately your weakness. Hmmm, say Grady Sizemore and Huston Street.

Something like that. I think you need to upgrade your OF and RP, everything else looks fine.

You could also do Utley and an OF/RP for Pujols, but I think Iguchi will be better this year and you have Polanco as a backup. With your other players, you should be fine with those two if you upgrade your OF.

IowaRed · 03-28-2006, 09:50 PM

I would trade him for a power OF bat and an SP, anything short of that and I would sit tight. As RL mentioned your OF is a little shaky and you have to worry about Glaus staying healthy. I wouldn't be in a hurry to get rid of him unless somebody is willing to overpay.

HotCorner · 03-29-2006, 11:07 AM

In one of my leagues, I was offered Texieria and Lidge for Pujols. Suffice to say I accepted.

RedsManRick · 03-29-2006, 02:38 PM

If we assume Utley, then you would need a very solid SP to make up the difference -- basically anybody but the very top tier. Think of it in terms of draft picks. Pujols is 1 or 2. Utley seems to be going around 12-15 in most my drafts. I would want at least a 4th round quality pitcher or higher -- a Dontrelle Willis, Roy Halladay, Felix Hernandez, Carlos Zambrano type.

Pujols is just such a monster, that you really need 2 very good players back in return -- because you really can't replace what he gives you in terms of efficiency. Also consider that you are essentially trading the guy you have to cut as well...

Buckeye33 · 03-29-2006, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2844

In one of my leagues, I was offered Texieria and Lidge for Pujols. Suffice to say I accepted.

Always nice not to have to work at getting such a great trade

I may offer a trade like that and see what happens.

Dom Heffner · 03-29-2006, 05:59 PM

Utley is nice, but Pujols is such money in the bank that it would take him and a top line pitcher to get him out of my hands.

I was offered Lidge and Wagner for Ortiz and Vernon Wells and flat out turned it down, though I do need some pitching.

Buckeye33 · 04-01-2006, 06:28 PM

I have yet to offer up a trade of Pujols. I am leaning towards not trading him at this time.

I was offered Dunn and some garbage OFer (Dye maybe) for Helton and Damon. Obviously I turned it down. But I may try to get Dunn from him with Helton being involved.

With OF being my weak spot on this team and Helton currently on my bench, Dunn would be nice.

Would Dunn for Helton straight up be fair? This guys team name is "The Reds Suck" so I also believe he is more than willing to move Dunn.

Qualtiy names on his roster:

Dunn, Figgins, Cabrera, A. Jones, C. Cordero, F. Cordero

I'd love to get Dunn and Figgins, but I'm not sure that would be possible. But a Dunn for Helton in this 5x5 league wouldn't be bad at all. I'd gain HR and RBIs, lose in AVG obviously. R would probably be similar and I'd actually gain a few SBs.

Thoughts?

03-28-2006, 04:37 PM	#1
Buckeye33 Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Columbus OH Posts: 2,410	If you were to trade Pujols... What would you expect in return? I'm always looking to make deals in fantasy leagues, I think that's what makes them the most fun. In one of my leagues I have Pujols and am actually thinking about maybe dealing him. 5x5 10 team R-HR-RBI-SB-AVG Roster: Mauer Pujols Helton Hafner Iguchi Glaus Jeter Damon Holliday Ordonez Blalock Polanco Oswalt Carpenter Lackey Bonderman Capuano Isringhausen Turnbow Foulke Shields I was thinking of trying to get maybe Utley and a good SP or RP for Pujols. I feel Helton will have a rebound year and while there will still be a big difference in HR and R, in this 5x5 league I think the only thing Pujols will dominate Helton in will be HRs. What type of package would it take for you to move Pujols? __________________ Matta = Really good

03-28-2006, 04:44 PM	#2
Red Leader Puffy's Daddy Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Centerville, OH Posts: 20,422	Re: If you were to trade Pujols... You have the depth to do it. I'd be looking for some OF help (not sold that Ordonez is going to rebound) and Damon and Holliday as your 1-2 is definately your weakness. Hmmm, say Grady Sizemore and Huston Street. Something like that. I think you need to upgrade your OF and RP, everything else looks fine. You could also do Utley and an OF/RP for Pujols, but I think Iguchi will be better this year and you have Polanco as a backup. With your other players, you should be fine with those two if you upgrade your OF. __________________ 'When I'm not longer rapping, I want to open up an ice cream parlor and call myself Scoop Dogg.' -Snoop on his retirement Your Mom is happy.

03-28-2006, 09:50 PM	#3
IowaRed I can do the Hully Gully Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Cedar Rapids, Iowa Posts: 1,088	Re: If you were to trade Pujols... I would trade him for a power OF bat and an SP, anything short of that and I would sit tight. As RL mentioned your OF is a little shaky and you have to worry about Glaus staying healthy. I wouldn't be in a hurry to get rid of him unless somebody is willing to overpay. __________________ More often than not, when someone is telling me a story all I can think about is that I can't wait for them to finish so that I can tell my own story that's not only better, but also more directly involves me.

03-29-2006, 11:07 AM	#4
HotCorner Big League Choo! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The 513 Posts: 2,157	Re: If you were to trade Pujols... In one of my leagues, I was offered Texieria and Lidge for Pujols. Suffice to say I accepted. __________________ YouTube - Randy Pausch Last Lecture: Achieving Your Childhood Dreams Baseball Stars Rocks!

03-29-2006, 02:38 PM	#5
RedsManRick Stat Wanker Hodiernus Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 14,915	Re: If you were to trade Pujols... If we assume Utley, then you would need a very solid SP to make up the difference -- basically anybody but the very top tier. Think of it in terms of draft picks. Pujols is 1 or 2. Utley seems to be going around 12-15 in most my drafts. I would want at least a 4th round quality pitcher or higher -- a Dontrelle Willis, Roy Halladay, Felix Hernandez, Carlos Zambrano type. Pujols is just such a monster, that you really need 2 very good players back in return -- because you really can't replace what he gives you in terms of efficiency. Also consider that you are essentially trading the guy you have to cut as well... __________________ Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

03-29-2006, 05:59 PM	#7
Dom Heffner Potential Lunch Winner Join Date: May 2001 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 5,666	Re: If you were to trade Pujols... Utley is nice, but Pujols is such money in the bank that it would take him and a top line pitcher to get him out of my hands. I was offered Lidge and Wagner for Ortiz and Vernon Wells and flat out turned it down, though I do need some pitching. __________________ If you're watchin' a parade, make sure you stand in one spot, don't follow it, it never changes. And if the parade is boring, run in the opposite direction, you will fast-foward the parade. --Mitch Hedberg

04-01-2006, 06:28 PM	#8
Buckeye33 Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Columbus OH Posts: 2,410	Re: If you were to trade Pujols... I have yet to offer up a trade of Pujols. I am leaning towards not trading him at this time. I was offered Dunn and some garbage OFer (Dye maybe) for Helton and Damon. Obviously I turned it down. But I may try to get Dunn from him with Helton being involved. With OF being my weak spot on this team and Helton currently on my bench, Dunn would be nice. Would Dunn for Helton straight up be fair? This guys team name is "The Reds Suck" so I also believe he is more than willing to move Dunn. Qualtiy names on his roster: Dunn, Figgins, Cabrera, A. Jones, C. Cordero, F. Cordero I'd love to get Dunn and Figgins, but I'm not sure that would be possible. But a Dunn for Helton in this 5x5 league wouldn't be bad at all. I'd gain HR and RBIs, lose in AVG obviously. R would probably be similar and I'd actually gain a few SBs. Thoughts? __________________ Matta = Really good

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