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 04-09-2006, 09:22 AM #2 indyred Member   Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 808 Re: Measure of a homer Nice read.........
 04-09-2006, 09:53 AM #3 NatiRedGals Member   Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Fairfield Posts: 1,397 Re: Measure of a homer Thanks I always have wondered how certain they really are! __________________
 04-09-2006, 10:47 AM #4 cinredsfan2000 Member   Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 332 Re: Measure of a homer So basically it's just a guesstamation ? .I have always wondered how exact these numbers were .Now as a suggestion for home games couldnt they get distances from home plate to each row of seating and diffrent parts of G.A.B. ? So at least they the annoucers would have a better idea of exactly how far some of thes homeruns actually are ? Last edited by cinredsfan2000; 04-09-2006 at 11:19 AM.
04-09-2006, 12:16 PM   #5
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 Originally Posted by cinredsfan2000 So basically it's just a guesstamation ? .I have always wondered how exact these numbers were .Now as a suggestion for home games couldnt they get distances from home plate to each row of seating and diffrent parts of G.A.B. ?
Except that would serious under-value shots in the upper deck or shots that carom off of a surface with quite a bit of kinetic energy still in them. Dunn's monster blast was easy to measure because they had two fixed points BOTH ON THE SAME PLANE.

The problem with measuring shots into the stands is that you have to estimate how much farther that ball would have travelled had it not been stopped by an obstruction (the stands themselves). That is why they need the trajectory estimates.

 04-09-2006, 01:01 PM #6 DropDocK Member   Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 109 Re: Measure of a homer That was a good read in todays Enquirer, always curious about that. There is a new system in tennis called Hawk-eye (also mentioned in SI this week) that does a stimulated replay of where the ball landed, most useful for players who challenge a call. It's not exactly the same, but I wonder if eventually something similar could be produced for home runs. Granted, taking into account the energy coming off Dunns blasts is going to be a LOT more than most major leaguers. __________________ "When the Russians conquer America, they will recruit concentration camp guards from among Cardinals fans."
04-09-2006, 01:17 PM   #7
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 SINCE YOU ASKED I've received a lot of e-mails lately asking why Ken Griffey Jr. (left) changed his number from 30 to 3. It is not a sneaky plan by Major League Baseball to sell more merchandise. It is simply a gesture by Junior to honor his three children.
You know, I keep hearing this explanation from announcers (radio and tv) and beat writers. However, I'm 99.9% positive that I read an article during ST quoting KGJr himself as saying he changed his number to '3' because both his older children (Trey and Teryn) wear that number in each of their respective sports.
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04-09-2006, 01:21 PM   #8
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 Originally Posted by TeamBoone You know, I keep hearing this explanation from announcers (radio and tv) and beat writers. However, I'm 99.9% positive that I read an article during ST quoting KGJr himself as saying he changed his number to '3' because both his older children (Trey and Teryn) wear that number in each of their respective sports.
I heard the same thing shortly after last season ended, somewhere around November/December I think. It was on WLW and just a little blurb during the sports news.
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 04-09-2006, 07:10 PM #9 NastyBoy Member   Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Sinsinnasti Posts: 678 Re: Measure of a homer For those who might be interested... There is a homerun calculator also. If you use that you would is if dunns homerun was over 500 ft it would probably cleared the outside fence onto merhing way. To go into the river, a ball would have to travel about 580 ft. http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/NASAp...longest_hr.jsp __________________ "I notice that I'm throwing hard when I hear the crowd gasping," - Chapman
04-09-2006, 10:20 PM   #10
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 The one he hit Aug. 11, 2004, off Jose Lima of the Los Angeles Dodgers, went far enough that the Reds measured it rather than go with an estimation. That's the ball that cleared the right-field stands, hit on Mehring Way, bounced onto the river bank and came to rest on piece of driftwood. The actual measurement on that one was 535 feet. Baseball historian Bill Jenkinson called it the longest-recorded home run in baseball history, edging a 531-foot shot Dave Kingman hit at Wrigley Field April 14, 1976.
Did anyone else think that Mickey Mantle owned the longest recorded homer in history? I always heard stories about the one that Mantle hit over the right field upper deck facade at Yankee Stadium.

Supposedly, many times Mantle had dented the metal flashing that trimed the stadium at that time (has since been removed after one of their many renovations.) But this particular homer left the park entirely on the fly. I read that some ambitious writer or something did painstaking calculations and found that Mantle's homer traveled approximately 600 feet.

Does this ring a bell with anyone? Paging WOY....come in WOY....
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 04-10-2006, 12:17 PM #11 KearnsyEars Member   Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 1,579 Re: Measure of a homer Nice read. It's like cell phone technology. The system is not flawless, but its a round/abou science. I was at a game last season in which Dunn hit a ball off John Smoltz to dead center. It was a line drive (BUT HIGH) that cleared the structure in center field. I don't know if anyone remembers this homerun, no one really has talked about it but I know it was the opener of the Atlanta series and it looked like a 500 footer. Wonder how long it was.
04-10-2006, 12:18 PM   #12
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 Originally Posted by Blimpie Did anyone else think that Mickey Mantle owned the longest recorded homer in history? I always heard stories about the one that Mantle hit over the right field upper deck facade at Yankee Stadium. Supposedly, many times Mantle had dented the metal flashing that trimed the stadium at that time (has since been removed after one of their many renovations.) But this particular homer left the park entirely on the fly. I read that some ambitious writer or something did painstaking calculations and found that Mantle's homer traveled approximately 600 feet. Does this ring a bell with anyone? Paging WOY....come in WOY....
No one has ever hit a fair ball out of Yankee Stadium except perhaps Josh Gibson.
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04-10-2006, 01:50 PM   #13
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 Originally Posted by Chip R No one has ever hit a fair ball out of Yankee Stadium except perhaps Josh Gibson.
I have no idea where I heard what I posted, but I heard it a long time ago. I'm gonna do a little digging and see what I come up with.
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04-10-2006, 01:56 PM   #14
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Okay, maybe this is the Mantle homer that I was thinking about. Sounds like it was Tiger Stadium and not Yankee Stadium...

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/feats/art_hr.shtml

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 Not surprisingly, all of the great true distance hitters have also been the source of the greatest exaggerations. Despite his extraordinary accomplishments, Babe Ruth is not immune. His tremendous blow to right-center field in Detroit on June 8, 1926, has often been reported as traveling over 600 feet. Certainly, this drive was propelled somewhere around 500 feet in the air, which makes it legitimately historic, but proof that it traveled 600 feet cannot be found. When Mickey Mantle cleared the left-center-field bleachers at Clark Griffith Stadium in Washington on April 17, 1953, the entire baseball world was lead to believe the ball had traveled 565 feet from home plate to the point where it landed. In truth, that figure derived from the distance from home plate to the place where a neighborhood child retrieved the ball. Since this home run was the only one that ever cleared those bleachers during decades of major league and Negro League competition, it is genuinely deserving of recognition. However, the actual distance in the air was probably about 510 feet. The same process was at work for Mantle on September 10, 1960, in Detroit, where his right-center-field rooftopper was reported to have traveled more than 600 feet. From interviews with the surviving source of the original data, it is readily apparent once again that the all had bounced several times before it reached the estimated distance.
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