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cincy09 · 04-30-2006, 09:58 AM

Didnt see this posted yet, according to Marc Arroyo will switch places with Williams in the rotation to face Mulder tomorrow. Williams will face Ponson on Tuesday.

Dunner44 · 04-30-2006, 10:17 AM

Good, we now have a chance against Mulder... And maybe, just maybe the reds will beat up on Ponson enough that Mr. Coache's Pitch softball will avoid the loss (I'd have to be taking crazy pills to think DW can get the win, but he could avoid the loss if we kill Izzy)

oneupper · 04-30-2006, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by cincy09

Didnt see this posted yet, according to Marc Arroyo will switch places with Williams in the rotation to face Mulder tomorrow. Williams will face Ponson on Tuesday.

This is being greedy! Instead of looking at a split, we could lose both games.

harangatang · 04-30-2006, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunner44

Good, we now have a chance against Mulder... And maybe, just maybe the reds will beat up on Ponson enough that Mr. Coache's Pitch softball will avoid the loss (I'd have to be taking crazy pills to think DW can get the win, but he could avoid the loss if we kill Izzy)

Remember when the Reds were going to trade Ponson for Kearns?

PuffyPig · 04-30-2006, 12:56 PM

May as well keep Arroyo (and Harang) pitching every 5 days. Use the off day to get them more starts. While it looks like they are simply swithing to get a certain matchup, that's not the case. Moving Arroyo up keeps him on his schedule and moves him up a day, such that eventually we will squeeze an extra start out of him.

Gandalf the Red · 04-30-2006, 01:27 PM

Kiroc voice/

Ladies and Gentlemen of Redszone,

I'm a relative newcomer to your board. I don't understand your talk of OPS, IsoPs, and SecAs. Are these some sort of code words from a holy book known only to your resident expert statisticians? I don't know.

And your mention of things like WHIPs frightens and confuses me.

But one thing I do know: Anything the postpones a Dave Williams start is worth more than a million bottles of this fabulous pink concoction you call "Pepto-Bismol" to Reds fans everywhere.

Thank you.

/Kiroc voice

KronoRed · 04-30-2006, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Gandalf the Red

But one thing I do know: Anything the postpones a Dave Williams start is worth more than a million bottles of this fabulous pink concoction you call "Pepto-Bismol" to Reds fans everywhere.
/Kiroc voice

Amen Kiroc.

MattyHo4Life · 04-30-2006, 03:19 PM

Who pitches on Wed?

OnBaseMachine · 04-30-2006, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MattyMo4Life

Who pitches on Wed?

It's only a two game series.

Claussen vs Francis Wed in Coors. Harang vs Fogg Thursday, Reds should crush Fogg.

UC_Ken · 04-30-2006, 04:13 PM

Ramirez/Williams spots have to be separated because you don't want the bullpen to have to go extended innings two days in a row, which is extremely likely as it stands now.

MattyHo4Life · 04-30-2006, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine

It's only a two game series.

Claussen vs Francis Wed in Coors. Harang vs Fogg Thursday, Reds should crush Fogg.

Ahhh...thanks...that teaches me for not looking at the schedule first.

BTW...I'm glad that we miss Ramirez in that series. The Cardinals would lose that game for sure. I like the matchups on Monday and Tuesday though.

BoCcc2832 · 04-30-2006, 07:08 PM

I'm really upset about the move because I had already bought tickets to Tuesday's game, hoping that I would be watching Arroyo bring his magic. But no, I have to hate myself watching Williams.:thumbdown

membengal · 04-30-2006, 07:12 PM

I'm just glad the Reds are not throwing Williams out there in a tone-setting game against the Cards.

Caveat Emperor · 04-30-2006, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cincy09

Didnt see this posted yet, according to Marc Arroyo will switch places with Williams in the rotation to face Mulder tomorrow. Williams will face Ponson on Tuesday.

Probably preventative measure in case Ramirez blew up today and they had to go to the bullpen for 4-5 innings. They wouldn't want to throw Williams out immediately after that, given his season thus far. Arroyo would have a better chance to give the pen some rest, were they all thrown today.

This at least gives Matt Belisle a day off before it's his turn in the "rotation"

TeamBoone · 04-30-2006, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BoCcc2832

I'm really upset about the move because I had already bought tickets to Tuesday's game, hoping that I would be watching Arroyo bring his magic. But no, I have to hate myself watching Williams.:thumbdown

I think you can trade them... unless you can't make it Monday night, of course.

Give the Reds ticket office a call to find out for sure.

04-30-2006, 09:58 AM	#1
cincy09 Bada Bing Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Zanesvegas, OH Posts: 1,484	rotation switch Didnt see this posted yet, according to Marc Arroyo will switch places with Williams in the rotation to face Mulder tomorrow. Williams will face Ponson on Tuesday. __________________ 2006 Redszone Prospect Draft - Johnny Cueto 2007 Redszone Prospect Draft - Pedro Viola, Alexis Oliveras 2007 Redszone Mock Draft - 1st (27) Michael Burgess, Supp. (60) Wes Roemer, 2nd (92) Barry Enright, 3rd (122) Jonathan Bachanov 2009 Redszone Mock Draft - 1st (9) Shelby Miller, 2nd (58) Marc Krauss, 3rd (89) Daniel Fields

04-30-2006, 10:17 AM	#2
Dunner44 Can he be stopped? Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Notre Dame Posts: 1,231	Re: rotation switch Good, we now have a chance against Mulder... And maybe, just maybe the reds will beat up on Ponson enough that Mr. Coache's Pitch softball will avoid the loss (I'd have to be taking crazy pills to think DW can get the win, but he could avoid the loss if we kill Izzy) __________________ Tom Shearn... who knew? Reds reccord when I attend in 2007: 6-1

04-30-2006, 12:56 PM	#5
PuffyPig Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,702	Re: rotation switch May as well keep Arroyo (and Harang) pitching every 5 days. Use the off day to get them more starts. While it looks like they are simply swithing to get a certain matchup, that's not the case. Moving Arroyo up keeps him on his schedule and moves him up a day, such that eventually we will squeeze an extra start out of him.

04-30-2006, 01:27 PM	#6
Gandalf the Red Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 241	Re: rotation switch Kiroc voice/ Ladies and Gentlemen of Redszone, I'm a relative newcomer to your board. I don't understand your talk of OPS, IsoPs, and SecAs. Are these some sort of code words from a holy book known only to your resident expert statisticians? I don't know. And your mention of things like WHIPs frightens and confuses me. But one thing I do know: Anything the postpones a Dave Williams start is worth more than a million bottles of this fabulous pink concoction you call "Pepto-Bismol" to Reds fans everywhere. Thank you. /Kiroc voice Last edited by Gandalf the Red; 04-30-2006 at 01:43 PM.

04-30-2006, 03:19 PM	#8
MattyHo4Life Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: St. Louis Posts: 3,340	Re: rotation switch Who pitches on Wed?

04-30-2006, 04:13 PM	#10
UC_Ken Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Monfort Heights Posts: 524	Re: rotation switch Ramirez/Williams spots have to be separated because you don't want the bullpen to have to go extended innings two days in a row, which is extremely likely as it stands now.

04-30-2006, 07:08 PM	#12
BoCcc2832 Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Hilliard, OH Posts: 533	Re: rotation switch I'm really upset about the move because I had already bought tickets to Tuesday's game, hoping that I would be watching Arroyo bring his magic. But no, I have to hate myself watching Williams.:thumbdown __________________ Reds record while I was in attendance in 2006: 7-2 Reds record while I was in attendance in 2007: 2-0 Reds record while I'm in attendance in 2008: 0-1 "I wish the stadium was filled up every night." - Bronson Arroyo, Cincinnati Enquirer - February 9, 2007

04-30-2006, 07:12 PM	#13
membengal Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Baltimore Posts: 8,379	Re: rotation switch I'm just glad the Reds are not throwing Williams out there in a tone-setting game against the Cards.

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