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Old 05-08-2006, 12:46 PM   #31
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Forgot about that beauty of a pick...
the only reason they took Scramek was because they knew he would have to accept a lowball offer. He ended up getting around getting about 70% less than those drafted around him.
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Old 05-08-2006, 01:02 PM   #32
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the only reason they took Scramek was because they knew he would have to accept a lowball offer. He ended up getting around getting about 70% less than those drafted around him.
Too common of a tale when talking about Cincinnati drafts.
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Old 05-08-2006, 01:08 PM   #33
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Too common of a tale when talking about Cincinnati drafts.
actually there is no other good Reds example of a player like Schramek in recent years. It was a case where Bowden had a limited budget, a top pick and the sandwich pick which meant somebody was going to get a lowball offer.

Have the Reds drafted guys for signability reasons? Sure but not with serious lowball offers.

If the Reds had put up an extra 250K they could have signed Markakis.
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Old 05-10-2006, 03:45 PM   #34
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I saw a mock draft, and I am not sure if it was very dated, but in it, the Reds were selecting LHP Brett Anderson out of high school. On this draft, only Andrew Miller and Max Scherzer were off the board among the most intriguing college arms. The other five picks besides these two and before the Reds at 8 were high schoolers and a college position player or two (Drew Stubbs was one, Longoria may have been there). Could have been from a few months ago, I didn't see a date on it. I also saw a note on Ian Kennedy that suggested his stock has fallen enough that he may no longer be a first round pick.....that'd be quite interesting.
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Old 05-10-2006, 05:55 PM   #35
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I'd take Kennedy in the 2nd round if he falls to us.
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Old 05-10-2006, 05:57 PM   #36
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actually there is no other good Reds example of a player like Schramek in recent years. It was a case where Bowden had a limited budget, a top pick and the sandwich pick which meant somebody was going to get a lowball offer.

Have the Reds drafted guys for signability reasons? Sure but not with serious lowball offers.

If the Reds had put up an extra 250K they could have signed Markakis.
I think the Sowers situation was an embarrassment and a lowball offer when everyone knew he wasn't signing.
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Old 05-10-2006, 11:50 PM   #37
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Max Scherzer would be my first choice if available. Personally, I would like to see college starting pitchers taken with each of the first three picks. In the past, we reached badly on position players in the second/third (or supplemental) rounds; Dunn being the notable exception.
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Old 05-11-2006, 12:14 AM   #38
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http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/a...ives&fext=.jsp

Here's a link to mlb.com's mock draft. They've got the Reds taking Drew Stubbs with Bard and Scherzer still on the board. :thumbdown
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Old 05-11-2006, 01:26 AM   #39
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This Draft is going to be crazy, some of those picks aren't even in the Top 20 in Baseball America Draft List. I hope the Reds don't pick a high school 3rd baseman with the 8th pick.
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Old 05-11-2006, 08:10 AM   #40
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This Draft is going to be crazy, some of those picks aren't even in the Top 20 in Baseball America Draft List. I hope the Reds don't pick a high school 3rd baseman with the 8th pick.
Nothing less than college pitching. Anything else and I will .
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Old 05-11-2006, 09:10 AM   #41
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I took a minute to look at Minnesota's drafts since Krivskey went there and they've had some good picks, including a number of pitchers who have made it up to the majors - most significantly Aaron Heilman (now with the Mets). Of course, Joe Mauer was durig that time (since 1999).

I think Minnesota's ability to keep the minors system stocked (whether for the ML club or for trades) was one reason Krivskey was attractive.
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Old 05-11-2006, 12:54 PM   #42
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BA said that Hochevar had a nice outing in an independent league game. I wouldn't mind grabbing him. He won't have much leverage after sitting out for a year and should sign for a fair amount. Of course the Dogers may still sign him?
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Old 05-11-2006, 01:24 PM   #43
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After nearly a year of negotiations with Hochever, I doubt he signs with the Dodgers.
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Old 05-11-2006, 03:33 PM   #44
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I took a minute to look at Minnesota's drafts since Krivskey went there and they've had some good picks, including a number of pitchers who have made it up to the majors - most significantly Aaron Heilman (now with the Mets). Of course, Joe Mauer was durig that time (since 1999).

I think Minnesota's ability to keep the minors system stocked (whether for the ML club or for trades) was one reason Krivskey was attractive.
I would look at Chris Buckley's work rather than the Twins. Krivsky wasn't much into the prep scouting/drafting/development side of things. Buckley worked for the Blue Jays. His drafts have a tendency to be top heavy looking for franchise talent, not overly different than O'brien era drafts.
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Old 05-11-2006, 11:40 PM   #45
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I hope the Reds don't pick a high school 3rd baseman with the 8th pick.
I'd never even heard of Bill Rowell before. I guess a 6'5"/195 frame is always nice, but I agree that a high school third basemen would be a dissappointment with somebody like Bard available.
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