Olney's NYY replacement possibilities

[KoryMac5]

The Yankee cupboard is bare no pitching what so ever they can call all day long and ask for Griffey and Kearns and the answer will definitely be no.

[flyer85]

Originally Posted by KoryMac5

The Yankee cupboard is bare no pitching what so ever they can call all day long and ask for Griffey and Kearns and the answer will definitely be no.

They have a couple of good pitching prospects but they are not major league ready. I trade Jr for Wang and a minor leaguer but I doubt the Yanks would.

[OldXOhio]

Originally Posted by flyer85

That doesn't make the Reds better in the short term

I didn't say it helped the team in the short term. I fully acknowledge that this year's team may not be better off by doing this.

and only helps in the long term if they can find something to spend the excess $$ on that make them better than they would be with Jr.

I'd be willing to allow Krivsky a chance at improving the team with the added funds.

[edabbs44]

Originally Posted by flyer85

They have a couple of good pitching prospects but they are not major league ready. I trade Jr for Wang and a minor leaguer but I doubt the Yanks would.

I wouldn't want Wang...he isn't the picture of health himself.

[flyer85]

Originally Posted by edabbs44

I wouldn't want Wang...he isn't the picture of health himself.

he is a GB machine that doesn't give up many HRs. A very good fit for GABP.

[Z-Fly]

Yeah... The Yanks are looking for anouther ageing centerfielder. They wouldn't want Griffey unless he plays DH.

[UK Reds Fan]

Would a swap of Pavano for Griff be that terrible? Don't know how healthy Pavano will be this season, but I would suppose he'd improve greatly over Williams/Milton at back of rotation and ideally could replace Claussen at 3rd spot with any return to form. And the salaries would identically swap themselves out.

[edabbs44]

Originally Posted by UK Reds Fan

Would a swap of Pavano for Griff be that terrible? Don't know how healthy Pavano will be this season, but I would suppose he'd improve greatly over Williams/Milton at back of rotation and ideally could replace Claussen at 3rd spot with any return to form. And the salaries would identically swap themselves out.

I think it would be a disaster. Not to try and start any ugly rumors, but Pavano is a guy I would be worried about where his past performance is a little tainted by chemical enhancements. It seems like a lot of these accused players need some time off while their bodies get used to the changes. Look at Giambi and Bonds, both took nearly a year off after testing began. Did you ever see a routine knee operation knock someone out for a year?

I have never heard any rock solid info regarding injuries to Pavano. It seems like he has a new excuse every time he is ready to come back. This time he bruised his butt when he fell down on the field...give me a break. Even last year Cashman came out and said he had no idea what was wrong with the guy.

[UK Reds Fan]

Originally Posted by edabbs44

I think it would be a disaster. Not to try and start any ugly rumors, but Pavano is a guy I would be worried about where his past performance is a little tainted by chemical enhancements. It seems like a lot of these accused players need some time off while their bodies get used to the changes. Look at Giambi and Bonds, both took nearly a year off after testing began. Did you ever see a routine knee operation knock someone out for a year?

I have never heard any rock solid info regarding injuries to Pavano. It seems like he has a new excuse every time he is ready to come back. This time he bruised his butt when he fell down on the field...give me a break. Even last year Cashman came out and said he had no idea what was wrong with the guy.

That is a great point, didn't consider the chemical factor with this guys performance that past year and half.

[edabbs44]

Originally Posted by UK Reds Fan

That is a great point, didn't consider the chemical factor with this guys performance that past year and half.

Just a thought, since he has had these mysterious injuries.

[Matt700wlw]

Someone needs to tell ESPN that just because they're the Yankees, doesn't mean every other team in the league will bow to them and give them what they want.

One thing with Krivsky....he won't let the Yankees toy him....O'Brien would.

[KronoRed]

Originally Posted by smith288

I would love to see what the Yankees forums are saying. "We'll just go get the star of any team because we are the yanks!"

That's pretty much what they are like.

[RedEye]

If we trade them Griff or Kearns, we need to get a nice package in return. Like some people on the Old Red Guard suggested, I say
Griffey = Wang, Cabrera + cash
Kearns = Wang + Hughes
That's where we start. Otherwise the Yanks can go look elsewhere.

[vaticanplum]

I would like to point out that not one word has been said in the Yankees camp about acquiring a big-name replacement. It is the media and the fans jumping to the immediate, easy-out way to hate the Yankees: oh, look at the money they're going to spend, look at the arrogance. Of course the Yankees tend to go a little nuts in the off-season when they have time to think about things, but they have not shown that they have any intention of doing so right now when Sheffield's return time is still uncertain and yes, pitching is a bigger concern.

The irony kind of astounds me: people jumping all over the Yankees for their intentions to spend money on a quick replacement, when the only people who have said anything about such intentions are the yelling people themselves.

Statements from Cashman:

"For now, Cashman said he has no plans to pursue a player via trade to replace Matsui, choosing instead to see what the organization's system can provide.

"We want to assess what we have first," Cashman said. "If you go to the trade market, you'll have to spend from your system. Let's see what we have first. " "

"We want to make sure we don't have the answer here," Cashman said. "We had a number of young players step up for us last year, so let's find out first and foremost in-house if we don't have people capable of helping us fill holes."

Statement from Torre:
"Some role players will have to step up a little bit," Torre said. "We're going to have to dig in and go get 'em."

The Yankees plan to recall outfielder Kevin Reese from Triple-A Columbus on Friday to take Matsui's roster spot, but Cashman said that Reese would be a bench player for New York."

Statement from Matsui, who underwent successful surgery today and is expected to make a full recovery (no date set yet):

"Due to this injury, I feel very sorry and, at the same time, very disappointed to have let my teammates down. I will do my best to fully recover and return to the field to help my team once again. I would like to thank Joe Torre from the bottom of my heart for having been considerate of my consecutive games played streak these past several years and for placing me in the lineup every day."

[vaticanplum]

And for the record, Yankees fans -- and I am surrounded by them in life and frequent internerd message boards as well -- are by and large quite critical of the spend-money-quick-fix Steinbrenner approach as well. To state otherwise is to draw yet another conclusion about the Yankees by non-Yankees fans with no legitimate basis.