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Old 05-13-2006, 03:34 PM   #16
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Re: Player A or Player B

As much as I hate the stat...

w/RISP

Dunn: .184/.340/.605 -- .945 OPS
Encarnacion: .300/.404/.625 -- 1.029

Sample size problems abound here. But the real point is that If Dunn got the same pitches to hit that Encarnacion did, you'd see a higher BA w/ RISP. He doesn't get anything to hit, because when does hit it, he kills the ball. When he tries to be more aggressive (as Marty suggested last night), he simply swings at pitches that he can't hit well, and strikes out or hits a ball poorly and gets out instead of walking.

The REAL point should be that both are proving to be great offensive players. You don't have to choose just one. We've got both and should enjoy it.
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Old 05-13-2006, 03:36 PM   #17
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I'll take Dunn
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Old 05-13-2006, 04:44 PM   #18
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Represents about 23% of the at bats in a season. Only part of the picture and one that's not a constant.
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Yeah the 23% that have the highest impact on the game.
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Old 05-13-2006, 05:05 PM   #19
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Yeah the 23% that have the highest impact on the game.

Runs scored w/o RISP are worth just as much as runs scored w/RISP.
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.963 OPS for a slumping player. Not bad. Yet, he's still the biggest problem on the team.
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Old 05-13-2006, 05:08 PM   #21
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.963 OPS for a slumping player. Not bad. Yet, he's still the biggest problem on the team.
When you walk as much as he does, and hit as many homers as he does, of course your OPS will be high.

Problem is that is all he does.
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Old 05-13-2006, 05:14 PM   #22
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Runs scored w/o RISP are worth just as much as runs scored w/RISP.
nuh uh. every run scored by a weak ground ball with a guy on third and less than two outs is actually a home run. I know. I watch lots of baseball.
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Old 05-13-2006, 05:15 PM   #23
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When you walk as much as he does, and hit as many homers as he does, of course your OPS will be high.

Problem is that is all he does.
Fact is, that's all he has to do. It's not pretty and many may find it boring, but it's still effective.
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nuh uh. every run scored by a weak ground ball with a guy on third and less than two outs is actually a home run. I know. I watch lots of baseball.
Good pitching and defense, and timely hitting. That is the keys to baseball. Adam Dunn plays terrible defense, and is a terrible timely hitter.

Now the pitching part he can't control.
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Good pitching and defense, and timely hitting. That is the keys to baseball. Adam Dunn plays terrible defense, and is a terrible timely hitter.

Now the pitching part he can't control.

No. The "keys" to baseball is scoring more runs than your opponent. Adam Dunn helps the Reds do that by getting on base and having lots of power. It's irrefutable.
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When you walk as much as he does, and hit as many homers as he does, of course your OPS will be high.

Problem is that is all he does.

What he does is create runs. I don't care how he does it, just that he does it.
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