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Old 06-07-2006, 02:50 PM   #1
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Unappreciated Players

Throughout baseball history there have been players who contributed significantly to a teams success, but yet were lightning rods for fan complaints. Seemingly no matter what they did it was always "this guy is horrible at ABC" or "he stinks because he doesn't do XYZ".

Simularly, there have been players who quietly produced day in and day out. Year after year they played a valuable role on their team, and significantly helped that team win more games. They were passed over for all-star consideration, weren't fan favorites and were never considered for HOF voting.

So my question is, excluding our two favorite lightening rods in Cincinnati (because I'm sick of reading never-ending arguments over them) who are some of the players in baseball history that (1) Never could do enough and got nothing but complaints or (2) Were steady, solid ball players with great carears but never just made in into the "star" level ????
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Old 06-07-2006, 02:53 PM   #2
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Re: Unappreciated Players

Three current players who I am aware get a lot complaints from fans of their team are Andruw Jones (low BA, too many K's), Bobby Abreu (too many K's, too many BB's), Jim Edmunds (too many K's, low BA)

I think I'd take that as an OF.
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Old 06-07-2006, 02:55 PM   #3
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Three current players who I am aware get a lot complaints from fans of their team are Andruw Jones (low BA, too many K's), Bobby Abreu (too many K's, too many BB's), Jim Edmunds (too many K's, low BA)

I think I'd take that as an OF.
I think those three are perenial All-Stars.
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Old 06-07-2006, 02:56 PM   #4
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It's amazing to me that Ted Williams and Joe DiMaggio got a hard time from their fans, to the point that Williams went Danny Graves on the Boston fans. Dave Winfield got his share of grief. And some guys were just scowling personalities who made it harder on themselves, like Richie Allen and Eddie Murrary.
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Old 06-07-2006, 02:57 PM   #5
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I think those three are perenial All-Stars.
I agree. I don't see any of those three as under appreciated.
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Old 06-07-2006, 02:59 PM   #6
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I agree. I don't see any of those three as under appreciated.
They are by quite a few of their team's fans. Go to a Philly message board and they are ripping Abreu.
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Old 06-07-2006, 03:01 PM   #7
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It's not anything new. A team's best player will always get a little more heat than the rest of the team on any small flaw.
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I think those three are perenial All-Stars.

That is true, so maybe it doesn't meet the strict definition from the original post, but none the less I have heard a lot of grumbling about those three from fans of each team. What I believe that illustrates is that when you are an active fan of a particular team and you have to watch guys fail 65% of the time (which they all do) it sometime causes you to not appreciate what a guy brings to the team while fans not so close to the situation will look at a guys stats and say "hey, he's pretty good"
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I agree. I don't see any of those three as under appreciated.

I think you'd be surprised.
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Old 06-07-2006, 03:01 PM   #10
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underapreciated player joe crede for the white sox solid defensive thirdbasemen ronnie belliard in cleveland doesn't get enough credit eric byrnes of arizona all this man does is make great plays in the outfield or atleast he used to he constantly hustles all over the place
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Braves fans - nuff ced.

Philly fans - ditto

Cards fans - I'm surprised by their ripping of Edmonds.
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Old 06-07-2006, 03:03 PM   #12
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Three current players-
Austin Kearns
Morgan Ensberg
Michael Barrett
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Braves fans - nuff ced.

Philly fans - ditto

Cards fans - I'm surprised by their ripping of Edmonds.
Braves fans are famously misinformed. I know, I lived there for 10 years.

Classic Braves fan quote " boy that Deion sure is fast! What do they call that.. a triple?"
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Old 06-07-2006, 03:09 PM   #14
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Rafael Palmeiro
John Olerud
Jack Clark

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Ryan P. Freel
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Old 06-07-2006, 03:14 PM   #15
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I'm just going to throw this out there and I might get drilled for it, but one way to be underaprreciated is to not be on a winning team.
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