Maybe Chambliss should go? - RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion

Jim Fazio · 06-14-2006, 01:10 PM

Maybe Chris Chambliss, the hitting coach should be fired. The Reds with runners in scoring position is a joke. I know we hit alot of home runs and doubles, but when we need the clutch hit, we never get it. Their plate discipline is terrible, thay look at too many strikes, and strike out way too much. Kearns is another guy I would get rid of in return for some pitching.

traderumor · 06-14-2006, 01:16 PM

That would be like firing a dog trainer because he could not turn a pit bull into a lap dog.

dabvu2498 · 06-14-2006, 01:24 PM

The Dog Whisperer could do it.

RedsBaron · 06-14-2006, 01:27 PM

The Reds rank second in the NL with 338 runs scored, second in the NL in OBP at .347, first in SLG at .459 and first in HRs with 98. Yeah, that performance is totally unacceptable, so they should fire Chambliss.

CTA513 · 06-14-2006, 01:28 PM

The pitching has also been bad, should the pitching coach also be fired?

toledodan · 06-14-2006, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by CTA513

The pitching has also been bad, should the pitching coach also be fired?

yes we should fire the bullpen coach!

Jim Fazio · 06-14-2006, 01:32 PM

I'm talking when the Reds really need the big hits. They can never get them and its been that way for some time. They need someone who can light a fire under them and I doubt Chambliss is that man. RISP, thats the stat I care about.

RedsBaron · 06-14-2006, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Fazio

I'm talking when the Reds really need the big hits. They can never get them and its been that way for some time. They need someone who can light a fire under them and I doubt Chambliss is that man. RISP, thats the stat I care about.

There is approximately utterly no evidence whatsoever in the history of baseball that hitters get "big hits" because someone was able to "light a fire under them" and precious little evidence to support the notion of clutch hitting.

Redsland · 06-14-2006, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Fazio

They need someone who can light a fire under them and I doubt Chambliss is that man.

Why?

Because of the pressure-free atmosphere he played in as a Yankee?

Or is it because he only has six World Series rings?

Yep. I'd want a guy like that to stay far away from my youngsters.

traderumor · 06-14-2006, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Fazio

I'm talking when the Reds really need the big hits. They can never get them and its been that way for some time. They need someone who can light a fire under them and I doubt Chambliss is that man. RISP, thats the stat I care about.

Jim, do you realize that BA RISP does not take into account solo home runs, home runs with a guy on first, a triple with a guy on first, a double with a guy on first, all ways that a goodly number of runs are scored? Are those big hits? A good example is Javier Valentin's walk off home run against the Dbacks. There was a guy on first, thus did not fall under the category of RISP. Was that a big hit?

I agree that it is frustrating to have a guy on third and less than two outs and not get him in, but the answer to improving in that area does not lie in "lighting a fire under them" or a failure to get "big hits." As others have pointed out, scoring runs is not a problem for this team.

Last night, they went from down 4-0 to 4-2 with two swings of the bat. Were those "big hits?" After another home run, they fought back to 4-3, and were it not for the bullpen continuing to allow runs at about the pace of one an inning during this losing streak, they would have tied the game at 4-4. So, once again, while the offense takes the heat if they cannot sustain a winning streak by scoring 7 runs a game, its time to fire the hitting coach.

ochre · 06-14-2006, 01:46 PM

Baseball is a game built around failure. Sometimes one succeeds.

westofyou · 06-14-2006, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Fazio

They need someone who can light a fire under them and I doubt Chambliss is that man. RISP, thats the stat I care about.

Maybe we can exhume Woody Hayes to kick em all in the rear.

westofyou · 06-14-2006, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ochre

Baseball is a game built around failure. Sometimes one succeeds.

Baseball is like japanese food, the presentation and process is a big part of the whole experience.

Talking baseball on Redszone can sometimes be like getting a Burrito in a Phish lot in Bonner Springs Ka.

dabvu2498 · 06-14-2006, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by westofyou

Talking baseball on Redszone can sometimes be like getting a Burrito in a Phish lot in Bonner Springs Ka.

There's an easy solution to both those problems.

registerthis · 06-14-2006, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RedsBaron

The Reds rank second in the NL with 338 runs scored, second in the NL in OBP at .347, first in SLG at .459 and first in HRs with 98. Yeah, that performance is totally unacceptable, so they should fire Chambliss.

OPS, Schmops. I notice you didn't list Productive Outs there, RedsBaron. Any particular reason for that, hmm?

06-14-2006, 01:10 PM	#1
Jim Fazio Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 222	Maybe Chambliss should go? Maybe Chris Chambliss, the hitting coach should be fired. The Reds with runners in scoring position is a joke. I know we hit alot of home runs and doubles, but when we need the clutch hit, we never get it. Their plate discipline is terrible, thay look at too many strikes, and strike out way too much. Kearns is another guy I would get rid of in return for some pitching.

06-14-2006, 01:16 PM	#2
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Jim Fazio Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 222	Re: Maybe Chambliss should go? I'm talking when the Reds really need the big hits. They can never get them and its been that way for some time. They need someone who can light a fire under them and I doubt Chambliss is that man. RISP, thats the stat I care about.

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