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Spitball · 06-16-2006, 05:51 PM

Could Tim Hudson be an option and what would it take to land him? Wagner or Claussen, Bailey, and Votto? They thrown in Reitsma.

Link: http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5700028

I'm not sure the Reds have the players to offer, but he has the stuff to pitch in the GAB. He is affordable for a couple of years but after that-ouch!

RedEye · 06-16-2006, 05:55 PM

He'd be a great addition, especially as a ground ball pitcher. However, I think we'd have to give up too much to get him. I'd rather see the club pursue Willis (younger with more upside), Schmidt (power pitcher we sorely lack), or Zito (heard he's on the block).

VI_RedsFan · 06-16-2006, 05:56 PM

Looks like you and edabbs are on the same page, Spitball (if you don't know what I'm talking about, just look in the ORG). I wouldn't give up Bailey for Hudson, but I'd trade BOTH Claussen and Wagner to get it done. Here's what I'd do:

Kearns, Claussen, Wagner, Olmedo, Votto for Hudson and Reistma

This trade seems fair to me. Yeah, maybe we are giving up a lot, but at the same time we upgrade the rotation and the bullpen greatly.

Just a side thought here, but would anyone trade LaRue to the Royals for Elmer Dessens? Elmer has done pretty well pitching out of the 'pen in KC and he would sure help ours.

CTA513 · 06-16-2006, 05:57 PM

Reistma is on the DL with numbness in his fingers...

VI_RedsFan · 06-16-2006, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CTA513

Reistma is on the DL with numbness in his fingers...

I'm sure he won't be gone for too long. He's only on the 15-day.

captainmorgan07 · 06-16-2006, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by VI_RedsFan

I'm sure he won't be gone for too long. He's only on the 15-day.

kip wells had the same thing and it turned out to be very bad

jimbo · 06-16-2006, 06:23 PM

I don't think I want Reistma even if he is healthy. His 9.11 ERA, along with the fact that the Braves are sour on him and ready to ship him out, is enough to scare me away.

KronoRed · 06-16-2006, 06:36 PM

Doubt they would want Kearns, young OF's they have.

Spitball · 06-16-2006, 07:02 PM

Yeah, Reitsma broke his arm or elbow throwing a pitch years ago. There might be a serious medical issue with him, but I'd take Hudson.

I wouldn't be afraid to include Bailey in a deal to acquire a Hudson type pitcher, contract, rib, and all. He pounds the lower strike zone and would surely fit the GAB. I would think Votto would be attractive to them, also.

06-16-2006, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by VI_RedsFan

I'm sure he won't be gone for too long. He's only on the 15-day.

Numbness is nothing to over-look.

Spitball · 06-17-2006, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by saboforthird

Numbness is nothing to over-look.

Right, because numbness would be a neurological problem. I believe repetitive actions, such a throwing, sometimes cause nerve damage.

I wonder if his friend Catch22 ever visits here anymore.

TeamBoone · 06-17-2006, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by CTA513

Reistma is on the DL with numbness in his fingers...

Chris isn't having a very good year. Maybe he has a mechanics problem that can be fixed or is it because he has an underlying medical problem?

Is it wise to give up HB? He's the most promising pitching prospect the Reds have had in a long long time. They're not a dime a dozen.

Spitball · 06-17-2006, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TeamBoone

Chris isn't having a very good year. Maybe he has a mechanics problem that can be fixed or is it because he has an underlying medical problem?

Is it wise to give up HB? He's the most promising pitching prospect the Reds have had in a long long time. They're not a dime a dozen.

I'd give up HB to acquire a Tim Hudson type starter. If you look at the B.J. Ryan and Jason Schmidt examples, you see that so often teams have a promising young pitcher through his developing years and then lose him when he develops and tests the free agent market. Others get injured or never develop as hoped. Hudson is signed through a few more years though he gets pretty expensive in a few years. Hopefully, by that time, the Reds are winning so much they are packing the park.

Redsland · 06-17-2006, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitball

I wonder if his friend Catch22 ever visits here anymore.

According to the Membership List, he dropped by yesterday.

CTA513 · 06-17-2006, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by VI_RedsFan

I'm sure he won't be gone for too long. He's only on the 15-day.

I was watching the Redsox & Braves game and heard one of the announcers say he has bone chips around his elbow.

06-16-2006, 05:51 PM	#1
Spitball Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Posts: 5,491	Tim Hudson??? Could Tim Hudson be an option and what would it take to land him? Wagner or Claussen, Bailey, and Votto? They thrown in Reitsma. Link: http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5700028 I'm not sure the Reds have the players to offer, but he has the stuff to pitch in the GAB. He is affordable for a couple of years but after that-ouch! __________________ "Colorless green ideas sleep furiously."- Noam Chomsky

06-16-2006, 05:55 PM	#2
RedEye Ojo Rojo Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Moving to Atlanta in July Posts: 4,429	Re: Tim Hudson??? He'd be a great addition, especially as a ground ball pitcher. However, I think we'd have to give up too much to get him. I'd rather see the club pursue Willis (younger with more upside), Schmidt (power pitcher we sorely lack), or Zito (heard he's on the block). __________________ "It's a dog-eat-dog world and I'm wearing milkbone underwear." - Norm (George Wendt), Cheers

06-16-2006, 05:56 PM	#3
VI_RedsFan Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 721	Re: Tim Hudson??? Looks like you and edabbs are on the same page, Spitball (if you don't know what I'm talking about, just look in the ORG). I wouldn't give up Bailey for Hudson, but I'd trade BOTH Claussen and Wagner to get it done. Here's what I'd do: Kearns, Claussen, Wagner, Olmedo, Votto for Hudson and Reistma This trade seems fair to me. Yeah, maybe we are giving up a lot, but at the same time we upgrade the rotation and the bullpen greatly. Just a side thought here, but would anyone trade LaRue to the Royals for Elmer Dessens? Elmer has done pretty well pitching out of the 'pen in KC and he would sure help ours. __________________ "Pam, I am public speaking...stop public interrupting me." -Michael Scott, "The Office" "His capa was detated from his head!" -Michael Scott on the death of his former boss, Ed Truck, "The Office" Last edited by VI_RedsFan; 06-16-2006 at 05:58 PM.

06-16-2006, 05:57 PM	#4
CTA513 Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 10,702	Re: Tim Hudson??? Reistma is on the DL with numbness in his fingers...

06-16-2006, 06:23 PM	#7
jimbo Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Troy, OH Posts: 2,538	Re: Tim Hudson??? I don't think I want Reistma even if he is healthy. His 9.11 ERA, along with the fact that the Braves are sour on him and ready to ship him out, is enough to scare me away.

06-16-2006, 06:36 PM	#8
KronoRed The Lineups stink. Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: West N. Carolina Posts: 55,343	Re: Tim Hudson??? Doubt they would want Kearns, young OF's they have. __________________ Go Gators!

06-16-2006, 07:02 PM	#9
Spitball Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Posts: 5,491	Re: Tim Hudson??? Yeah, Reitsma broke his arm or elbow throwing a pitch years ago. There might be a serious medical issue with him, but I'd take Hudson. I wouldn't be afraid to include Bailey in a deal to acquire a Hudson type pitcher, contract, rib, and all. He pounds the lower strike zone and would surely fit the GAB. I would think Votto would be attractive to them, also. __________________ "Colorless green ideas sleep furiously."- Noam Chomsky

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