The Reds have signed an 18 year old catcher from Czechoslovakia - RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion

savafan · 07-21-2006, 01:02 PM

http://www.dailycamera.com/bdc/rocki...860289,00.html

July 21, 2006

NEW YORK — Jim Lefebvre saw plenty of strange things during his days as a major league player, manager and coach. What he witnessed in the fledgling Chinese Baseball League was beyond odd.

Because when the starting pitcher took the mound, the reliever went to the bullpen and began warming up, matching him pitch for pitch. For the whole game.

"By the time you brought the guy in, he had a sore arm," Lefebvre said. "When I asked why they did it that way, they said, 'We want him to get ready.'

"I think I should've told them how our relievers do it — they chew up a bunch of sunflower seeds, spit 'em out, sit around and wait to be called," he said.

Chances are, the 60 international players that Lefebvre, career saves leader Lee Smith, Hall of Famer Rod Carew and former Boston ace Bruce Hurst instruct later this month will be a bit more advanced.

The second European Baseball Academy will be held at the Italian Olympic training center in Tirrenia from July 27 to Aug. 18. The prospects are between 15 and 19 years old, come from 13 nations in Europe and Africa and play for their national or junior national teams.

"When I first started playing, you didn't get players from everywhere," Smith said. "Puerto Rico was about it."

Said Lefebvre: "Educating the world is our goal. You hope these players take the skills and go back to their countries and help spread the game."

Finding a future major leaguer might be a bonus.

Petr Chech, an 18-year-old catcher from the Czech Republic, has already signed with Cincinnati. He'll attend the academy and later join the Reds' fall instructional program.

At last year's camp, four players signed pro contracts — the Chicago Cubs took a pitcher from Italy, Minnesota got a pitcher from the Czech Republic and Seattle left with an outfielder from the Netherlands and an infielder from Italy.

Several of the players from last summer wound up in the World Baseball Classic. Lefebvre managed the Chinese team and Hurst was its pitching coach.

Smith, a roving minor league pitching coach with San Francisco, helped the South African squad. He's looking forward to his first trip to Italy.

"I hope to see some improvement in the guys I worked with," Smith said. "I know we changed some things when I went down to South Africa."

"The first couple of games, we'd be losing and I'd see the relief pitchers and the bullpen coach and the bullpen catcher packing up early and walking across the field in the middle of the game," he said. "I played for the Cubs, and we got beat down a lot. But we never left while the game was still going."

Lefebvre played in Japan in the mid-1970s after finishing his big league career with the Los Angeles Dodgers, He later managed the Mariners, Cubs and Milwaukee. In the last three decades, the former NL Rookie of the Year and All-Star has seen interest in baseball grow overseas.

"The Internet has had a big effect," he said. "When I was outside of Shanghai and talking about the major leagues, these kids knew who Manny Ramirez and Randy Johnson were.

"These kids say they want to play the major league style. And you know what the major league style is? It's the way Americans and Koreans and Dominicans and players from Puerto Rico and Australia and all over play the game," he said.

Prospects from Croatia, the Czech Republic, Denmark, France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Nigeria, Slovakia, South Africa, Spain, Sweden and Uganda will attend the academy, run by Major League Baseball International.

The camp starts the same month that Italy won soccer's World Cup. Some of the skills that young athletes learn in that sport translate to baseball, others do not.

"Players need to be able to run, and they can do that. Throwing overhand, that doesn't come naturally. So it's something they need to work on," Lefebvre said. "But that doesn't mean the relievers have to throw every pitch that the starter does."

savafan · 07-21-2006, 01:04 PM

It's nice to see that they are entering into the international market

Heath · 07-21-2006, 01:05 PM

http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48859

The thread's in "down on the farm".

savafan · 07-21-2006, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heath

http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48859

The thread's in "down on the farm".

This forum confuses me sometimes, as I think that things that seem like big time Reds news to me belong on the main board, but others feel differently.

princeton · 07-21-2006, 01:16 PM

I'm with you, Sava. If you sign a player away from Chelsea, it's huge Reds news

http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/fo/profil...000020150.html

chicoruiz · 07-21-2006, 01:30 PM

At least an 18-year-old European player shouldn't have any bad habits to unlearn.

At this point, he's kind of a blank Czech....

Handofdeath · 07-21-2006, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by savafan

http://www.dailycamera.com/bdc/rocki...860289,00.html

July 21, 2006

NEW YORK — Jim Lefebvre saw plenty of strange things during his days as a major league player, manager and coach. What he witnessed in the fledgling Chinese Baseball League was beyond odd.

Because when the starting pitcher took the mound, the reliever went to the bullpen and began warming up, matching him pitch for pitch. For the whole game.

"By the time you brought the guy in, he had a sore arm," Lefebvre said. "When I asked why they did it that way, they said, 'We want him to get ready.'

"

The name of this team has to be the Cubs.

RedsIn07 · 07-21-2006, 02:30 PM

Just on a side note, there isn't a Czechslovakia anymore.

savafan · 07-21-2006, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedsIn07

Just on a side note, there isn't a Czechslovakia anymore.

HAHA, I failed geography for a reason.

07-21-2006, 01:02 PM	#1
savafan Maple SERP Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 17,486	The Reds have signed an 18 year old catcher from Czechoslovakia http://www.dailycamera.com/bdc/rocki...860289,00.html July 21, 2006 NEW YORK — Jim Lefebvre saw plenty of strange things during his days as a major league player, manager and coach. What he witnessed in the fledgling Chinese Baseball League was beyond odd. Because when the starting pitcher took the mound, the reliever went to the bullpen and began warming up, matching him pitch for pitch. For the whole game. "By the time you brought the guy in, he had a sore arm," Lefebvre said. "When I asked why they did it that way, they said, 'We want him to get ready.' "I think I should've told them how our relievers do it — they chew up a bunch of sunflower seeds, spit 'em out, sit around and wait to be called," he said. Chances are, the 60 international players that Lefebvre, career saves leader Lee Smith, Hall of Famer Rod Carew and former Boston ace Bruce Hurst instruct later this month will be a bit more advanced. The second European Baseball Academy will be held at the Italian Olympic training center in Tirrenia from July 27 to Aug. 18. The prospects are between 15 and 19 years old, come from 13 nations in Europe and Africa and play for their national or junior national teams. "When I first started playing, you didn't get players from everywhere," Smith said. "Puerto Rico was about it." Said Lefebvre: "Educating the world is our goal. You hope these players take the skills and go back to their countries and help spread the game." Finding a future major leaguer might be a bonus. Petr Chech, an 18-year-old catcher from the Czech Republic, has already signed with Cincinnati. He'll attend the academy and later join the Reds' fall instructional program. At last year's camp, four players signed pro contracts — the Chicago Cubs took a pitcher from Italy, Minnesota got a pitcher from the Czech Republic and Seattle left with an outfielder from the Netherlands and an infielder from Italy. Several of the players from last summer wound up in the World Baseball Classic. Lefebvre managed the Chinese team and Hurst was its pitching coach. Smith, a roving minor league pitching coach with San Francisco, helped the South African squad. He's looking forward to his first trip to Italy. "I hope to see some improvement in the guys I worked with," Smith said. "I know we changed some things when I went down to South Africa." "The first couple of games, we'd be losing and I'd see the relief pitchers and the bullpen coach and the bullpen catcher packing up early and walking across the field in the middle of the game," he said. "I played for the Cubs, and we got beat down a lot. But we never left while the game was still going." Lefebvre played in Japan in the mid-1970s after finishing his big league career with the Los Angeles Dodgers, He later managed the Mariners, Cubs and Milwaukee. In the last three decades, the former NL Rookie of the Year and All-Star has seen interest in baseball grow overseas. "The Internet has had a big effect," he said. "When I was outside of Shanghai and talking about the major leagues, these kids knew who Manny Ramirez and Randy Johnson were. "These kids say they want to play the major league style. And you know what the major league style is? It's the way Americans and Koreans and Dominicans and players from Puerto Rico and Australia and all over play the game," he said. Prospects from Croatia, the Czech Republic, Denmark, France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Nigeria, Slovakia, South Africa, Spain, Sweden and Uganda will attend the academy, run by Major League Baseball International. The camp starts the same month that Italy won soccer's World Cup. Some of the skills that young athletes learn in that sport translate to baseball, others do not. "Players need to be able to run, and they can do that. Throwing overhand, that doesn't come naturally. So it's something they need to work on," Lefebvre said. "But that doesn't mean the relievers have to throw every pitch that the starter does." __________________ This is the Cal Ripkin Jr. of typos. If you ask me to join your fantasy baseball league and I select Legolas in the first round, don't be angry at me. It's not my fault I've read up on the players and you haven't.

07-21-2006, 01:04 PM	#2
savafan Maple SERP Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 17,486	Re: The Reds have signed an 18 year old catcher from Czechoslovakia It's nice to see that they are entering into the international market __________________ This is the Cal Ripkin Jr. of typos. If you ask me to join your fantasy baseball league and I select Legolas in the first round, don't be angry at me. It's not my fault I've read up on the players and you haven't.

07-21-2006, 01:05 PM	#3
Heath This one's for you Edd Join Date: May 2005 Location: Dayton Area Posts: 8,471	Re: The Reds have signed an 18 year old catcher from Czechoslovakia http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48859 The thread's in "down on the farm". __________________ Some people play baseball. Baseball plays Jay Bruce.

07-21-2006, 01:16 PM	#5
princeton Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: princeton, nj Posts: 9,482	Re: The Reds have signed an 18 year old catcher from Czechoslovakia I'm with you, Sava. If you sign a player away from Chelsea, it's huge Reds news http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/fo/profil...000020150.html

07-21-2006, 01:30 PM	#6
chicoruiz Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 1,666	Re: The Reds have signed an 18 year old catcher from Czechoslovakia At least an 18-year-old European player shouldn't have any bad habits to unlearn. At this point, he's kind of a blank Czech.... __________________ "In baseball, you don't know nothin'"...Yogi Berra

07-21-2006, 02:30 PM	#8
RedsIn07 Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 859	Re: The Reds have signed an 18 year old catcher from Czechoslovakia Just on a side note, there isn't a Czechslovakia anymore.

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