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redsandrails · 07-25-2006, 02:44 PM

He's not doing so hot this year- 4-10, 5.15 ERA. With Woody Williams back, Chris Young's emergence, Hensley and Park's decent pitching and the holes at 3B and the middle of the Padres' order do you think the Padres would swap him for a package of Edwin Encarnacion and Brandon Claussen (to fill the #5 slot in the rotation)? Would you do this on the Reds end?

Puffy · 07-25-2006, 02:51 PM

No, the Pads would never do that.

TeamSelig · 07-25-2006, 02:53 PM

Would you trade Aaron Harang and Edwin Encarnacion?

Jpup · 07-25-2006, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TeamSelig

Would you trade Aaron Harang and Edwin Encarnacion?

nope. Harang is staying put in Cincy for a long time, hopefully.

redsandrails · 07-25-2006, 03:07 PM

You think they'd take Elizardo and EdE?

Heath · 07-25-2006, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by redsandrails

You think they'd take Elizardo and EdE?

Nope.

Red Leader · 07-25-2006, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by redsandrails

You think they'd take Elizardo and EdE?

I don't think they'd take anyone for Peavy personally. I was in San Diego earlier this year and even though Peavy was under .500 and pitching badly everyone there worships the guy. That'd be the equivalent of our front office dealing Bronson Arroyo at the deadline if he had a bad 2nd half.

Johnny Footstool · 07-25-2006, 03:24 PM

The thing is, he's not pitching badly. He's got 128 Ks and only 33 BBs in 117 IPs. He's been extremely hit-unlucky and has given up more HRs than usual. Maybe he's been tipping his pitches or something.

RedsManRick · 07-25-2006, 03:31 PM

Peavy is dealing with a serious shoulder injury --- it does not portend well for his future. While I'd love to have him, given that the asking price would likely be MUCH MUCH greater than EE & Claussen and the injury, it problably isn't a good fit.

KronoRed · 07-25-2006, 03:56 PM

Would take about as much to get him as it would Willis

Johnny Footstool · 07-25-2006, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RedsManRick

Peavy is dealing with a serious shoulder injury --- it does not portend well for his future. While I'd love to have him, given that the asking price would likely be MUCH MUCH greater than EE & Claussen and the injury, it problably isn't a good fit.

He's not pitching like he's injured, though. Injured pitchers generally can't strike batters out like Peavy is doing.

Red Leader · 07-25-2006, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Footstool

He's not pitching like he's injured, though. Injured pitchers generally can't strike batters out like Peavy is doing.

He has even stated publicly that the shoulder is no longer bothering him.

KronoRed · 07-25-2006, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Leader

He has even stated publicly that the shoulder is no longer bothering him.

Pitchers never lie?

TeamSelig · 07-25-2006, 04:53 PM

I read somewhere once that their GM said he wouldn't trade Peavy for ANYONE. I'm sure thats just nice talk about his players, but still I think it shows how much they value him.

Jake Peavy is one of my favorite pitchers in the MLB. Top 5 I think. Liriano, Santana, and Verlander are the only ones I can think of that I'd rather have.

RedsManRick · 07-25-2006, 04:56 PM

Per Will Carroll at BP on 7/24/06

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The Padres have a more interesting situation. At the start of the year, I was shocked to see Jake Peavy on the cover of BP. Sure, everyone loved him, but not many people realized how serious the shoulder injury Peavy had was going to be. I tried to explain that he was suffering from a similar injury to the one that had sidelined Ben Sheets and Bartolo Colon. Peavy’s toughness and lower natural arm slot helped him pitch, but his results so far show that he’s been missing the mark more than hitting it. Less control, less velocity, and less motion is the nightmare trifecta for any pitcher, let alone one expected to contend for a Cy Young. At 26, Peavy’s health has him at something of a crossroads career-wise. Shoulder injuries don’t portend long, effective careers without summoning up visions of Frank Tanana. At least there’s better news for Padres fans when it comes to Chris Young: in addition to no dead arm, Young made it through a test of his injured push foot. He’ll start as scheduled on Monday.

You can see I "borrowed" some of Will's language. Consider this my proper citing.

07-25-2006, 02:44 PM	#1
redsandrails Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 350	Peavy He's not doing so hot this year- 4-10, 5.15 ERA. With Woody Williams back, Chris Young's emergence, Hensley and Park's decent pitching and the holes at 3B and the middle of the Padres' order do you think the Padres would swap him for a package of Edwin Encarnacion and Brandon Claussen (to fill the #5 slot in the rotation)? Would you do this on the Reds end?

07-25-2006, 02:51 PM	#2
Puffy Puffy 3:16 Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Panama City Beach Posts: 13,669	Re: Peavy No, the Pads would never do that. __________________ "I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum... and I'm all out of bubble gum." - - Rowdy Roddy Piper "It takes a big man to admit when he is wrong. I am not a big man" - - Fletch

07-25-2006, 02:53 PM	#3
TeamSelig Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 3,727	Re: Peavy Would you trade Aaron Harang and Edwin Encarnacion?

07-25-2006, 03:24 PM	#8
Johnny Footstool Churlish Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Olathe, KS Posts: 13,665	Re: Peavy The thing is, he's not pitching badly. He's got 128 Ks and only 33 BBs in 117 IPs. He's been extremely hit-unlucky and has given up more HRs than usual. Maybe he's been tipping his pitches or something. __________________ "I prefer books and movies where the conflict isn't of the extreme cannibal apocalypse variety I guess." Redsfaithful

07-25-2006, 03:31 PM	#9
RedsManRick Stat Wanker Hodiernus Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 14,919	Re: Peavy Peavy is dealing with a serious shoulder injury --- it does not portend well for his future. While I'd love to have him, given that the asking price would likely be MUCH MUCH greater than EE & Claussen and the injury, it problably isn't a good fit. __________________ Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

07-25-2006, 03:07 PM	#5
redsandrails Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 350	Re: Peavy You think they'd take Elizardo and EdE?

07-25-2006, 03:56 PM	#10
KronoRed The Lineups stink. Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: West N. Carolina Posts: 55,343	Re: Peavy Would take about as much to get him as it would Willis __________________ Go Gators!

07-25-2006, 04:53 PM	#14
TeamSelig Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 3,727	Re: Peavy I read somewhere once that their GM said he wouldn't trade Peavy for ANYONE. I'm sure thats just nice talk about his players, but still I think it shows how much they value him. Jake Peavy is one of my favorite pitchers in the MLB. Top 5 I think. Liriano, Santana, and Verlander are the only ones I can think of that I'd rather have.

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