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stevekun · 07-25-2006, 03:35 PM

Odalis Perez and two minor league pitchers to the Royals for Elmer Desens. Just saw it on the Royals page.

flyer85 · 07-25-2006, 03:43 PM

could be a good deal depending on who the minor leaguers are and how much money came along with Perez. Certainly getting rid of Dessens neither hurts the Royals or helps the Dodgers.

BRM · 07-25-2006, 03:47 PM

Blake Johnson and Julio Pimentel are the minor leaguers.

markymark69 · 07-25-2006, 04:01 PM

Could be the case that the Royals were the only takers for Perez, who wanted desperately out of LA and from all accounts, LA wanted Perez out.

If the Dodgers thought they still had a shot at the post-season it seems like Dessens out of the bullpen is not really what they need. Not a bad pick-up, but I don't know how he'll help.

redsupport · 07-25-2006, 04:04 PM

reds should have acquired dessens earlier he is far superior to weathers, hammond, et al

redsupport · 07-25-2006, 04:05 PM

by the way who do you think is a better pitcher Joe Mays or Perez?

Johnny Footstool · 07-25-2006, 04:13 PM

Not a great deal for the Dodgers, but I guess they were sick of Odalis.

registerthis · 07-25-2006, 04:18 PM

Sure looks like an overpayment to me.

5DOLLAR-BLEACHERBUM · 07-25-2006, 04:22 PM

no matter how you add lib do you think Joe Mays is better than_________?
the answer is always going to be NO!

IrishDavidKY · 07-25-2006, 04:52 PM

Doh! I would of like to seen the Reds aquire Dessens to replace Mays, but not at that price. Until then I hope WK is searching for another starting pitcher.

Brian · 07-25-2006, 05:02 PM

This trade is further support that the Reds had to pay the market price for two "quality" relievers. You can hate the trade all you want, but they paid what they had to...too many teams still think they're in it, like the Dodgers.

registerthis · 07-25-2006, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian

This trade is further support that the Reds had to pay the market price for two "quality" relievers. You can hate the trade all you want, but they paid what they had to...too many teams still think they're in it, like the Dodgers.

I don't think the "market value" is even the issue in the Kearns/Lopez deal. Most of the negative comments I've seen are saying that if that *was* the price for middle relief (I'm going to abstain from the use of the word "quality") then we would have just as soon seen Krivsky go after Wickman or Williamson than make the deal he did.

Johnny Footstool · 07-25-2006, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian

This trade is further support that the Reds had to pay the market price for two "quality" relievers. You can hate the trade all you want, but they paid what they had to...too many teams still think they're in it, like the Dodgers.

The Bob Wickman trade seems to undercut your assertion. And so does the Guardado trade.

This trade only proves that the Dodgers hated Odalis Perez as much as the Reds hated Lopez and Kearns.

BTW - Perez has been awful for the past two seasons, while Lopez and Kearns have performed well above average.

goreds2 · 07-25-2006, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevekun

Odalis Perez and two minor league pitchers to the Royals for Elmer Desens. Just saw it on the Royals page.

Thank goodness we did not get him. No way would I trade 2 minor league pitchers for him. Good for the Dodgers!

It's nice to give Lasorda a ribbing once in a while. (Oh, the good ole days)

07-25-2006, 03:35 PM	#1
stevekun Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: New Harmony IN Posts: 262	Royals and Dodgers Trade Odalis Perez and two minor league pitchers to the Royals for Elmer Desens. Just saw it on the Royals page.

07-25-2006, 03:43 PM	#2
flyer85 He has the Evil Eye! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: south of the border Posts: 23,858	Re: Royals and Dodgers Trade could be a good deal depending on who the minor leaguers are and how much money came along with Perez. Certainly getting rid of Dessens neither hurts the Royals or helps the Dodgers. __________________ What are you, people? On dope? - Mr Hand

07-25-2006, 03:47 PM	#3
BRM Let's ride Join Date: May 2004 Location: Colorado's eastern plains Posts: 11,232	Re: Royals and Dodgers Trade Blake Johnson and Julio Pimentel are the minor leaguers.

07-25-2006, 04:01 PM	#4
markymark69 Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Wheelersburg, Ohio Posts: 874	Re: Royals and Dodgers Trade Could be the case that the Royals were the only takers for Perez, who wanted desperately out of LA and from all accounts, LA wanted Perez out. If the Dodgers thought they still had a shot at the post-season it seems like Dessens out of the bullpen is not really what they need. Not a bad pick-up, but I don't know how he'll help.

07-25-2006, 04:04 PM	#5
redsupport Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,783	Re: Royals and Dodgers Trade reds should have acquired dessens earlier he is far superior to weathers, hammond, et al

07-25-2006, 04:05 PM	#6
redsupport Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,783	Re: Royals and Dodgers Trade by the way who do you think is a better pitcher Joe Mays or Perez?

07-25-2006, 04:13 PM	#7
Johnny Footstool Churlish Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Olathe, KS Posts: 13,670	Re: Royals and Dodgers Trade Not a great deal for the Dodgers, but I guess they were sick of Odalis. __________________ "I prefer books and movies where the conflict isn't of the extreme cannibal apocalypse variety I guess." Redsfaithful

07-25-2006, 04:18 PM	#8
registerthis Harry Chiti Fan Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 5,872	Re: Royals and Dodgers Trade Sure looks like an overpayment to me. __________________ We'll burn that bridge when we get to it.

07-25-2006, 04:22 PM	#9
5DOLLAR-BLEACHERBUM REDSBROWNSBUCKEYES Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dayton Ohio Posts: 771	Re: Royals and Dodgers Trade no matter how you add lib do you think Joe Mays is better than_________? the answer is always going to be NO!

07-25-2006, 04:52 PM	#10
IrishDavidKY Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 77	Re: Royals and Dodgers Trade Doh! I would of like to seen the Reds aquire Dessens to replace Mays, but not at that price. Until then I hope WK is searching for another starting pitcher.

07-25-2006, 05:02 PM	#11
Brian Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 109	Re: Royals and Dodgers Trade This trade is further support that the Reds had to pay the market price for two "quality" relievers. You can hate the trade all you want, but they paid what they had to...too many teams still think they're in it, like the Dodgers. __________________ Brian Editor StorageReview.com - SSD & HDD Reviews

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