Eric Milton's 2nd half success - RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion

fisch11 · 08-08-2006, 11:37 PM

I just wanted to bring up a dead thread that I posted right after the All-Star break. It shows stats for best/worst performances after the break.....read on.

http://www.redszone.com/forums/showt...ond+half+stats

I really believed around the All-Star break that Milton was going to be the swingman for the team's postseason chances. Hopefully, we get some more quality starts like tonights out of him down the stretch!

goreds2 · 08-08-2006, 11:47 PM

EVERY game is important which translates EVERY starter is important through NOVEMBER.

Blitz Dorsey · 08-08-2006, 11:48 PM

I have been pleasantly surprised with Milton this season. His stats don't completely show it, but I think he could be a solid #3 down the stretch. He was so awful last year that I wrote him off as a steroid guy. But maybe he just had a bad year. He's never had good ERAs, but he was always a pitcher that could keep you in the game. He sure didn't do that last year, but he's battling this year and keeping us in games.

Of course it helps when we rake out 17 hits and 10 runs.

RedsMan3203 · 08-08-2006, 11:54 PM

Of course Milton hasn't been 100% the last year or so... Now that his knee has settled down and feels better... He is getting sucess... Not the sucess that he had as a Twin... But he is still a soild starter when he is 100% - Just not for the money we are paying him is all.

HumnHilghtFreel · 08-08-2006, 11:56 PM

I was happy to see Narron pull him before he really got into his third trip through the lineup where it's well documented that he struggles and went to the pen, which did well.

oregonred · 08-09-2006, 04:21 AM

Stat of the night for Harang/Arroyo/Milton/Ramirez... Clearly Milton has assumed the #3 spot in the rotation (granted Ramirez took a big hit on the OPSA front last night)

OPSA
Arroyo .717
Harang .733
Milty .753
Ramirez .798

OPSA w/RISP
Harang .731 (da man at keeping fires under control)
Arroyo .826 (not so hot, but better at keeping the fires from starting)
Milton .831 (in-line with Arroyo)
Ramirez .969 (mayday, mayday)

WHIP
Arroyo 1.22
Milty 1.26
Harang 1.29
Ramirez 1.39

H/9
Milton 8.83 (Interesting)
Arroyo 8.93
Harang 9.15
Ramirez 10.20

GO/AO
Ramirez 1.18 (good sign for GABP in the future)
Harang 1.00
Arroyo .84
Milty .53 (wrong park, wrong home park...)

BAA
Milton .251
Arroyo .257
Harang .267
Ramirez .284

K/9
Harang 8.46
Arroyo 7.00
Ramirez 6.07
Milton 5.31

P/IP (Interesting -- I thought)
Milton 15.07
Arroyo 16.08
Ramirez 16.13
harang 16.47

K/BB
Arroyo 3.43
Harang 3.40
Ramirez 2.65
Milton 2.09

buckeyenut · 08-09-2006, 06:37 AM

Three cheers for a nice outing by Milton. He really stepped up.

With our current deep pen, we can afford to bring him out after 6 innings or at first sign of trouble. This helps out a lot. In fact, Harang and Arroyo are the only two I give any leeway to. That deep bullpen will make all the guys better.

ChatterRed · 08-09-2006, 08:29 AM

I agree. Props to Eric Milton. I'm actually developing some confidence in the guy.

vic715 · 08-09-2006, 09:52 AM

Our 3 top starters have 29 wins.Is that tops in the NL? Pretty impressive when you think about the last 5 or 6 years.

cincrazy · 08-09-2006, 10:27 AM

By no means did Milton have his best stuff last night, nor did he have his control. But he still held the Cardinals to only two runs in one of the biggest games of the year. Props to Milton for turning his career around here. He's not spectacular, but he's definitely solid when he's on.

OesterPoster · 08-09-2006, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by cincrazy

By no means did Milton have his best stuff last night, nor did he have his control. But he still held the Cardinals to only two runs in one of the biggest games of the year. Props to Milton for turning his career around here. He's not spectacular, but he's definitely solid when he's on.

That's true, but it seems as if Milton's margin-of-error is extremely thin. If he's off just a little, those fly outs are homers. He had a ton of fly outs last night, and I'd think it's because he was hitting his spots very well. If he's off on his spots just a fraction, it's homer time.

Maybe shaving the goatee got his mind and body aligned properly?

Heath · 08-09-2006, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OesterPoster

Maybe shaving the goatee got his mind and body aligned properly?

maybe he took Gary Majewski's cortisone shot in the knee.

BigREDSfaninKY · 08-09-2006, 12:24 PM

Since the break, Milton has started 6 games going 3-3 with 4.54 ERA. He's pitched 39.2 innings and only given up 33 hits and 15 walks. Milton is pushing Arroyo for the #2 spot and is pitching better than Bronson at this point.

RedsManRick · 08-09-2006, 12:49 PM

Milton doesn't give up a ton of walks and doesn't give up a ton of hits. He does give up a ton of homers. When he gives up homers he loses. When he keeps the ball in the yard, he wins.

If you put Milton in Petco, I bet you his ERA drops a full point or more and he wins 14-15 games a year.

Chainer · 08-09-2006, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RedsManRick

Milton doesn't give up a ton of walks and doesn't give up a ton of hits. He does give up a ton of homers. When he gives up homers he loses. When he keeps the ball in the yard, he wins.

If you put Milton in Petco, I bet you his ERA drops a full point or more and he wins 14-15 games a year.

I believe right now Arroyo's ranked #2 in the league for homers given up. But yes, Uncle Milty does give up a ton of them as well.

08-08-2006, 11:37 PM	#1
fisch11 Fielder's Indifference Join Date: May 2004 Location: Warsaw, OH Posts: 2,334	Eric Milton's 2nd half success I just wanted to bring up a dead thread that I posted right after the All-Star break. It shows stats for best/worst performances after the break.....read on. http://www.redszone.com/forums/showt...ond+half+stats I really believed around the All-Star break that Milton was going to be the swingman for the team's postseason chances. Hopefully, we get some more quality starts like tonights out of him down the stretch! __________________ "Are you trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?!"

08-08-2006, 11:54 PM	#4
RedsMan3203 Reds Slacker '07 Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,783	Re: Eric Milton's 2nd half success Of course Milton hasn't been 100% the last year or so... Now that his knee has settled down and feels better... He is getting sucess... Not the sucess that he had as a Twin... But he is still a soild starter when he is 100% - Just not for the money we are paying him is all. __________________ You think you got what it takes to play a real fantasy game? Join me at Jockstocks. You can play Baseball, Basketball, Football, Golf, Nascar and even Hockey! Jockstocks Homepage Do you have your shirt on? - Adam Dunn to Marty on the Bananna Phone.

08-08-2006, 11:56 PM	#5
HumnHilghtFreel Manliness Personified Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,690	Re: Eric Milton's 2nd half success I was happy to see Narron pull him before he really got into his third trip through the lineup where it's well documented that he struggles and went to the pen, which did well.

08-09-2006, 04:21 AM	#6
oregonred "So Fla Red" Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: South Florida - The Real Humidor Posts: 4,470	Re: Eric Milton's 2nd half success Stat of the night for Harang/Arroyo/Milton/Ramirez... Clearly Milton has assumed the #3 spot in the rotation (granted Ramirez took a big hit on the OPSA front last night) OPSA Arroyo .717 Harang .733 Milty .753 Ramirez .798 OPSA w/RISP Harang .731 (da man at keeping fires under control) Arroyo .826 (not so hot, but better at keeping the fires from starting) Milton .831 (in-line with Arroyo) Ramirez .969 (mayday, mayday) WHIP Arroyo 1.22 Milty 1.26 Harang 1.29 Ramirez 1.39 H/9 Milton 8.83 (Interesting) Arroyo 8.93 Harang 9.15 Ramirez 10.20 GO/AO Ramirez 1.18 (good sign for GABP in the future) Harang 1.00 Arroyo .84 Milty .53 (wrong park, wrong home park...) BAA Milton .251 Arroyo .257 Harang .267 Ramirez .284 K/9 Harang 8.46 Arroyo 7.00 Ramirez 6.07 Milton 5.31 P/IP (Interesting -- I thought) Milton 15.07 Arroyo 16.08 Ramirez 16.13 harang 16.47 K/BB Arroyo 3.43 Harang 3.40 Ramirez 2.65 Milton 2.09 Last edited by oregonred; 08-09-2006 at 04:28 AM.

08-09-2006, 06:37 AM	#7
buckeyenut Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,721	Re: Eric Milton's 2nd half success Three cheers for a nice outing by Milton. He really stepped up. With our current deep pen, we can afford to bring him out after 6 innings or at first sign of trouble. This helps out a lot. In fact, Harang and Arroyo are the only two I give any leeway to. That deep bullpen will make all the guys better.

08-08-2006, 11:47 PM	#2
goreds2 Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH H - EYE OH Posts: 2,567	Re: Eric Milton's 2nd half success EVERY game is important which translates EVERY starter is important through NOVEMBER. __________________ * Attended the 1990 and 2010 Reds Division clinchers * Watched the 2012 Clincher on FOX. Proud owner of a 1990 Dodge Class B Motorhome: A chick magnet! GO STEELERS www.tracyjonesonline.com Great YOUTUBE videos.

08-08-2006, 11:48 PM	#3
Blitz Dorsey Party like it's 1990 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,311	Re: Eric Milton's 2nd half success I have been pleasantly surprised with Milton this season. His stats don't completely show it, but I think he could be a solid #3 down the stretch. He was so awful last year that I wrote him off as a steroid guy. But maybe he just had a bad year. He's never had good ERAs, but he was always a pitcher that could keep you in the game. He sure didn't do that last year, but he's battling this year and keeping us in games. Of course it helps when we rake out 17 hits and 10 runs.

08-09-2006, 08:29 AM	#8
ChatterRed Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Blue Ash Posts: 2,616	Re: Eric Milton's 2nd half success I agree. Props to Eric Milton. I'm actually developing some confidence in the guy. __________________ Who's on first?

08-09-2006, 09:52 AM	#9
vic715 Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: lake city florida Posts: 794	Re: Eric Milton's 2nd half success Our 3 top starters have 29 wins.Is that tops in the NL? Pretty impressive when you think about the last 5 or 6 years. __________________ "Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser."

08-09-2006, 10:27 AM	#10
cincrazy Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Vienna, OH Posts: 4,122	Re: Eric Milton's 2nd half success By no means did Milton have his best stuff last night, nor did he have his control. But he still held the Cardinals to only two runs in one of the biggest games of the year. Props to Milton for turning his career around here. He's not spectacular, but he's definitely solid when he's on.

08-09-2006, 12:24 PM	#13
BigREDSfaninKY Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Lebanon KY Posts: 151	Re: Eric Milton's 2nd half success Since the break, Milton has started 6 games going 3-3 with 4.54 ERA. He's pitched 39.2 innings and only given up 33 hits and 15 walks. Milton is pushing Arroyo for the #2 spot and is pitching better than Bronson at this point. __________________ Welcome Billy Gillispie to the Kentucky Wildcats - 2009 National Champs

08-09-2006, 12:49 PM	#14
RedsManRick Stat Wanker Hodiernus Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 14,912	Re: Eric Milton's 2nd half success Milton doesn't give up a ton of walks and doesn't give up a ton of hits. He does give up a ton of homers. When he gives up homers he loses. When he keeps the ball in the yard, he wins. If you put Milton in Petco, I bet you his ERA drops a full point or more and he wins 14-15 games a year. __________________ Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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