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Blitz Dorsey · 08-16-2006, 09:32 PM

Ha! Are you kidding me? Whatever ends up happening this year, you have to say one thing: The Reds are taking their shot this year! I love it.

I wonder who are on some of the PTBN lists (including the Phillips trade) but hopefully we won't lose much. But I like the aggressive nature of Wayne, and more importantly Castallini. It wouldn't make much difference to have a good GM if you had an owner that didn't allow him to make changes. We haven't added a bunch of salary, but we've added some, and you get the feeling Wayne has carte blanche to make as many moves as he sees fit. We've never seen anything like it in my 30-plus years following the Reds.

reds1869 · 08-16-2006, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Blitz Dorsey

I wonder who are on some of the PTBN lists (including the Phillips trade) but hopefully we won't lose much.

Much like the Man in Black, most of the PTNB will be named Cash.

Krusty · 08-17-2006, 09:51 AM

We have gone from one extreme to the next.....Dan O'Brien who was afraid to make a move to the gunslinger in Krivsky.

redsmetz · 08-17-2006, 10:21 AM

So what PTBNL's do we still have hanging out there?

One from Florida (for C. Ross)

One to San Diego (for Cody Ross)
One to Cleveland (for Hollandsworth)
One to Philly (for Franklin)
One to Toronto (for Shoenweiss)

We've completed the other PTBNL's, as best I can recall. Did I miss anyone or have we completed any of these others?

Heath · 08-17-2006, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by redsmetz

So what PTBNL's do we still have hanging out there?

One from Florida (for C. Ross)

One to San Diego (for Cody Ross)
One to Cleveland (for Hollandsworth)
One to Philly (for Franklin)
One to Toronto (for Shoenweiss)

We've completed the other PTBNL's, as best I can recall. Did I miss anyone or have we completed any of these others?

Most of the PTBNL's might have the last name of Cash. First Name Lotsa.

BEETTLEBUG · 08-17-2006, 10:31 AM

We can't trade C. Ross more than once and I read we sent Zac Stotts to Phillies for Franklin. Stotts was from Dayton and Sarasota

Always Red · 08-17-2006, 10:33 AM

Kriv has had a spring and summer now to scout his own farm system and decide who fits in with his style and doesn't.

PTBNL's are probably going to be guys that were going to be released anyway. I'd rather have that, than to send cash we can spend on pitching.

redsmetz · 08-17-2006, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BEETTLEBUG

We can't trade C. Ross more than once and I read we sent Zac Stotts to Phillies for Franklin. Stotts was from Dayton and Sarasota

Regarding Cody Ross, we trade for him for a PTBNL and we traded him to Florida, also for a PTBNL. I don't think either of those have been completed.

Regarding Stotts, I see the transaction on the Phillies site two days after we received Franklin, but not showing being related to that trade, but nothing on the Reds site. Curious. You may be right, although the other completed transactions referred back to the previous trade.

Patrick Bateman · 08-17-2006, 10:38 AM

Traded Jeff Stevens for Phillips.
Traded Ben Kozlowski for Cody Ross.
Traded Zac Stott for Ryan Franklin.

Florida owes us a PTBNL for Cody Ross.

We owe PTBNL for Schoweneweis and 1 to Cleveland for Hollandsworth.

So far we have given up basically nothing of value, and based on what we have been trading for, I expect that trend to continue.

redsmetz · 08-17-2006, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Austin Kearns

Traded Jeff Stevens for Phillips.
Traded Ben Kozlowski for Cody Ross.
Traded Zac Stott for Ryan Franklin.

Florida owes us a PTBNL for Cody Ross.

We owe PTBNL for Schoweneweis and 1 to Cleveland for Hollandsworth.

So far we have given up basically nothing of value, and based on what we have been trading for, I expect that trend to continue.

Thanks, AK. I do remember the player being sent to the Padres to complete the Ross trade now that you mention it.

Patrick Bateman · 08-17-2006, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by redsmetz

Thanks, AK. I do remember the player being sent to the Padres to complete the Ross trade now that you mention it.

You might have the Ross' mixed up.

We traded a PTBNL (Bobby Basham) to San Diego for David Ross.

Mario-Rijo · 08-17-2006, 10:52 AM

I'll have to do some looking for where I 1st read it. But I could swear we got 500k for C. Ross from Florida.

redsmetz · 08-17-2006, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Austin Kearns

You might have the Ross' mixed up.

We traded a PTBNL (Bobby Basham) to San Diego for David Ross.

Yes, the Cody Ross transaction should be L.A. Dodgers - my mistake.

Danny Serafini · 08-17-2006, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mario-Rijo

I'll have to do some looking for where I 1st read it. But I could swear we got 500k for C. Ross from Florida.

The only place that 500K number came up was on this forum. Pretty sure that deal hasn't been completed yet.

08-16-2006, 09:32 PM	#1
Blitz Dorsey Party like it's 1990 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,310	Is Krivsky making enough moves? Ha! Are you kidding me? Whatever ends up happening this year, you have to say one thing: The Reds are taking their shot this year! I love it. I wonder who are on some of the PTBN lists (including the Phillips trade) but hopefully we won't lose much. But I like the aggressive nature of Wayne, and more importantly Castallini. It wouldn't make much difference to have a good GM if you had an owner that didn't allow him to make changes. We haven't added a bunch of salary, but we've added some, and you get the feeling Wayne has carte blanche to make as many moves as he sees fit. We've never seen anything like it in my 30-plus years following the Reds.

08-17-2006, 09:51 AM	#3
Krusty Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Williamsport, PA Posts: 12,311	Re: Is Krivsky making enough moves? We have gone from one extreme to the next.....Dan O'Brien who was afraid to make a move to the gunslinger in Krivsky. __________________ If you think small, you'll go nowhere in life.

08-17-2006, 10:21 AM	#4
redsmetz Redsmetz Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Winton Place Posts: 10,449	Re: Is Krivsky making enough moves? So what PTBNL's do we still have hanging out there? One from Florida (for C. Ross) One to San Diego (for Cody Ross) One to Cleveland (for Hollandsworth) One to Philly (for Franklin) One to Toronto (for Shoenweiss) We've completed the other PTBNL's, as best I can recall. Did I miss anyone or have we completed any of these others?

08-17-2006, 10:31 AM	#6
BEETTLEBUG Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: WEST CARROLLTON OHIO Posts: 1,226	Re: Is Krivsky making enough moves? We can't trade C. Ross more than once and I read we sent Zac Stotts to Phillies for Franklin. Stotts was from Dayton and Sarasota

08-17-2006, 10:33 AM	#7
Always Red nothing more than a fan Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,966	Re: Is Krivsky making enough moves? Kriv has had a spring and summer now to scout his own farm system and decide who fits in with his style and doesn't. PTBNL's are probably going to be guys that were going to be released anyway. I'd rather have that, than to send cash we can spend on pitching.

08-17-2006, 10:38 AM	#9
Patrick Bateman One and a half men Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 5,454	Re: Is Krivsky making enough moves? Traded Jeff Stevens for Phillips. Traded Ben Kozlowski for Cody Ross. Traded Zac Stott for Ryan Franklin. Florida owes us a PTBNL for Cody Ross. We owe PTBNL for Schoweneweis and 1 to Cleveland for Hollandsworth. So far we have given up basically nothing of value, and based on what we have been trading for, I expect that trend to continue.

08-17-2006, 10:52 AM	#12
Mario-Rijo HOF CLASS OF '12 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Springfield, Ohio Posts: 8,989	Re: Is Krivsky making enough moves? I'll have to do some looking for where I 1st read it. But I could swear we got 500k for C. Ross from Florida. __________________ 2008 Reds Draft Prospect RZ Scouting Reports 2009 Reds Draft Prospect RZ Scouting Reports 2010 Reds Draft Prospect RZ Scouting Reports "You can't let praise or criticism get to you. It's a weakness to get caught up in either one." --Woody Hayes

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