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MikeS21 · 08-17-2006, 02:04 PM

I'm not sure why Brandon Phillips isn't being touted more at SS. This kid could be the best defensive SS in the organization if given the job.

flyer85 · 08-17-2006, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by princeton

I think that it's just a euphemism for poor hitting

Rey Olmedo was once to be the next Omar Vizquel.

RedsManRick · 08-17-2006, 02:09 PM

The only thing he really has going for him is his plate discipline. A .270 average in the Florida State League at 22 shouldn't inspire any confidence. If you can't OPS above .700 in the majors, there's basically no amount of defense that can make up for it. (see Perez, Neifi)

thorn · 08-17-2006, 04:50 PM

I've always like Janish, and Cody Strait as well. They are the only reason's I check sarasota's box scores.

flyer85 · 08-17-2006, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RedsManRick

A .270 average in the Florida State League at 22 shouldn't inspire any confidence.

make that 23 and in 2 months 24.

thorn · 08-17-2006, 04:59 PM

If i remember correctly, the FSL wasn't to kind to Votto either. In fact, there are only 8 guys in the entire league hitting over 300 and 5 of those could drop below 300 at any moment. I know Votto's younger and I'm not comparing the 2, but it's not like Janish has been around 5 years and just now made it to the FSL.

flyer85 · 08-17-2006, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by thorn

If i remember correctly, the FSL wasn't to kind to Votto either.

and he was only 21.

Age/level success is a huge predictor. 23 is old for A ball and they should be dominating at that level/age if they want to have a possible major league career.

What Jay Bruce is doing is impressive but what sends it off the charts it that he is doing it as a 19 year old.

Doc. Scott · 08-17-2006, 05:43 PM

Well, to Janish's credit, he's got more pop than Olmedo or Bergolla have ever had, at any level.

But being old for his level, he's got to keep it up and raise the output some more to catch any notice.

Betterread · 08-17-2006, 06:42 PM

Janish has had a nice year to-date, displaying more power than he did in the past. At the same time, he has shown that he has recovered from TJ surgery, and shown good defense and good plate discipline. I think he has progressed steadily, and is more advanced than Szymanski and Tatum.

flyer85 · 08-17-2006, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Betterread

I think he has progressed steadily, and is more advanced than Szymanski and Tatum.

now that is truly faint praise.

Betterread · 08-17-2006, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by flyer85

now that is truly faint praise.

Point taken. The cautious nature of my optimism for Janish's prospects was communicated unintentionally. I do think that with Janish, Valaika, Loo, Justin Turner we are starting to address our farm system's lack of infield depth. I hope that in next year's draft and perhaps in trades and FA signings, we can add to our depth.

mth123 · 08-21-2006, 06:43 AM

If we were still in the era of Mark Belanger, Larry Bowa and Don Kessinger I would be excited about Janisch. Now not so much.

I agree with the idea of Phillips being the guy.

camisadelgolf · 08-22-2006, 01:25 PM

I'm going to say Chris Vilaika is the shortstop of the future at the moment. Or if his body is as young as the Reds front office claims, Royce Clayton.

dougdirt · 08-22-2006, 02:16 PM

Valaika might be looking good, but I would hold off touting him as the SS of the future until he shows he can do something against competition above rookie ball.

Crash Davis · 08-22-2006, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by camisadelgolf

I'm going to say Chris Vilaika is the shortstop of the future at the moment. Or if his body is as young as the Reds front office claims, Royce Clayton.

Anybody know if Valaika has been playing shortstop or second base for Billings?

I know he was drafted at SS, but started off the season playing 2B with Rojo at SS. Since they signed Turner to play 2B, has Valaika resumed playing SS?

While I'm asking, what position was Milton Loo playing in the GCL? Baseball America has him listed as a 3B, but I remember reading an article that stated he was playing SS the few times he wasn't DH-ing.

08-17-2006, 02:04 PM	#16
MikeS21 Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Ohio Posts: 3,653	Re: Janish= SS of Future? I'm not sure why Brandon Phillips isn't being touted more at SS. This kid could be the best defensive SS in the organization if given the job. __________________ Opinions are like belly buttons. Everybody has one, and they don't want someone else's shoved into their face.

08-17-2006, 02:09 PM	#18
RedsManRick Stat Wanker Hodiernus Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 14,919	Re: Janish= SS of Future? The only thing he really has going for him is his plate discipline. A .270 average in the Florida State League at 22 shouldn't inspire any confidence. If you can't OPS above .700 in the majors, there's basically no amount of defense that can make up for it. (see Perez, Neifi) __________________ Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

08-17-2006, 04:50 PM	#19
thorn Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: California Posts: 374	Re: Janish= SS of Future? I've always like Janish, and Cody Strait as well. They are the only reason's I check sarasota's box scores.

08-17-2006, 04:59 PM	#21
thorn Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: California Posts: 374	Re: Janish= SS of Future? If i remember correctly, the FSL wasn't to kind to Votto either. In fact, there are only 8 guys in the entire league hitting over 300 and 5 of those could drop below 300 at any moment. I know Votto's younger and I'm not comparing the 2, but it's not like Janish has been around 5 years and just now made it to the FSL.

08-17-2006, 05:43 PM	#23
Doc. Scott Lover of Trivialities Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Portland, OR (West Chester, OH) Posts: 6,066	Re: Janish= SS of Future? Well, to Janish's credit, he's got more pop than Olmedo or Bergolla have ever had, at any level. But being old for his level, he's got to keep it up and raise the output some more to catch any notice.

08-17-2006, 06:42 PM	#24
Betterread Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,106	Re: Janish= SS of Future? Janish has had a nice year to-date, displaying more power than he did in the past. At the same time, he has shown that he has recovered from TJ surgery, and shown good defense and good plate discipline. I think he has progressed steadily, and is more advanced than Szymanski and Tatum.

08-21-2006, 06:43 AM	#27
mth123 The Big Dog Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,686	Re: Janish= SS of Future? If we were still in the era of Mark Belanger, Larry Bowa and Don Kessinger I would be excited about Janisch. Now not so much. I agree with the idea of Phillips being the guy.

08-22-2006, 01:25 PM	#28
camisadelgolf Vampire Weekend @Bernie's Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 11,311	Re: Janish= SS of Future? I'm going to say Chris Vilaika is the shortstop of the future at the moment. Or if his body is as young as the Reds front office claims, Royce Clayton.

08-22-2006, 02:16 PM	#29
dougdirt The Boss Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 30,735	Re: Janish= SS of Future? Valaika might be looking good, but I would hold off touting him as the SS of the future until he shows he can do something against competition above rookie ball. __________________ www.redsminorleagues.com

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