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Old 08-18-2006, 04:08 PM   #16
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Re: 8/18 - Reds v. Pirates

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Except when he's really bad?

Snell would seem to be in the category of pitchers the Reds usually hit very well -- young guys with good fastballs who have trouble finding the strike zone from time to time.
He's been great for the last month after some early season poundings. He destroyed the Cards, IIRC. Trends.....
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Old 08-18-2006, 04:43 PM   #17
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He's been great for the last month after some early season poundings. He destroyed the Cards, IIRC. Trends.....
I'll bet you a 6-pack of your favorite the Reds hit him up tonight.
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Old 08-18-2006, 04:51 PM   #18
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I'll bet you a 6-pack of your favorite the Reds hit him up tonight.
You're on.

And Bay hits two dingers off Michalak.
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Old 08-18-2006, 04:53 PM   #19
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Re: 8/18 - Reds v. Pirates

Love the lineup.

Well, except for Griffey at 3, but that's not gonna change I guess...
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Old 08-18-2006, 04:53 PM   #20
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You're on.

And Bay hits two dingers off Michalak.
Wait a second...I didn't say anything about Michalak.

Let's make the proverbial "quality start" the over/under for Snell. I'll take the under, you get the over or tie. If he goes 6 and gives up 3 or less, you win.
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Old 08-18-2006, 04:55 PM   #21
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Wait a second...I didn't say anything about Michalak.

Let's make the proverbial "quality start" the over/under for Snell. I'll take the under, you get the over or tie. If he goes 6 and gives up 3 or less, you win.
No, Michalak doesn't figure in to the equation. That's just a separate observation.

I'll say Snell goes 7, giving up two runs.
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Old 08-18-2006, 05:01 PM   #22
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Re: 8/18 - Reds v. Pirates

Snell has look pretty solid for a team who has played pretty poor..
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Old 08-18-2006, 05:06 PM   #23
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No, Michalak doesn't figure in to the equation. That's just a separate observation.

I'll say Snell goes 7, giving up two runs.
Snell goes 5+, giving up 6 er

I'll bet you a shot of Cuervo, or some expensive bourbon.
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Old 08-18-2006, 06:00 PM   #24
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Re: 8/18 - Reds v. Pirates

Snell hasn't really been all that much better lately, as he's 8-6, 4.74 ERA before the all star break, 2-2, 4.50 after.

But his DIPS is 4.19, as he's been pretty unlucky this season.

He misses bats, and will be better next season than this season. He's not particularly good vs. LH hitters, which is good for us. He's much better on the road.

He's not your avarage high 4 ERA pitcher; he's better than that.

This is one time where I tend to agree with FCB, Snell is, today, a pretty good pitcher. I'd much rather face any starter in the Cards rotation not named Carpenter. I'd consider him the Pirates best starter these days.
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Old 08-18-2006, 06:01 PM   #25
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Re: 8/18 - Reds v. Pirates

I'm cutting and pasting, but peep this:

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Two Pirates hitters are by far the major threats- Freddy Sanchez (NL-leading .348 with a .489 SLG, but a low-for-the-average .384 OBP) and Jason Bay (.291/.406/.534). Both hit right-handed. Sanchez, who is exactly one year to the day younger than yours truly, is curbstomping left-handers to the tune of .457/.475/.617 in 94 at-bats. Bay is at .296/.418/.574 in 108 ABs. The Pirates as a team are at .266/.330/.409 overall. Versus lefties, it rises to .282/.347/.438. Jack Wilson, Jose Castillo, Jose Hernandez, Jose Bautista, and Ronny Paulino all have higher OPS figures against LHPs. New acquisition Xavier Nady has a plus-100-point split against ‘em, too.

See, this is why I’m not enthused about Chris Michalak getting the ball tonight.
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Old 08-18-2006, 06:03 PM   #26
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Re: 8/18 - Reds v. Pirates

Already the Reds can't gain any ground on the Cards- St. Louis blasted Chicago today for its first 2006 victory at Wrigley Field and fourth over the Cubs in 14 games.

Stupid Cubs. Try harder.
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Re: 8/18 - Reds v. Pirates

Pittsburgh Pirates
Lineup
Name Season/vs AVG HR RBI
Chris Duffy CF Season .208 0 7
vs. pitcher --- 0 0
Jack Wilson SS Season .274 7 31
vs. pitcher --- 0 0
Freddy Sanchez 3B Season .346 5 64
vs. pitcher --- 0 0
Jason Bay LF Season .291 25 81
vs. pitcher --- 0 0
Xavier Nady 1B Season .268 14 44
vs. pitcher --- 0 0
Ronny Paulino C Season .309 6 38
vs. pitcher --- 0 0
Jose Bautista RF Season .251 13 33
vs. pitcher --- 0 0
Jose Castillo 2B Season .271 14 55
vs. pitcher --- 0 0
Ian Snell P Season .057 0 1
vs. pitcher --- 0 0

Starting Pitcher
Name Season/vs Wins Losses Saves ERA
Ian Snell P Season 10 8 0 4.67
vs. Reds 0 0 0 7.20

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Lineup
Name Season/vs AVG HR RBI
Ryan Freel RF Season .287 7 24
vs. pitcher --- 0 0
Scott Hatteberg 1B Season .317 11 38
vs. pitcher .500 0 0
Ken Griffey Jr. CF Season .246 25 66
vs. pitcher .500 0 1
Edwin Encarnacion 3B Season .297 13 59
vs. pitcher 1.000 0 1
Adam Dunn LF Season .251 36 82
vs. pitcher .000 0 0
Rich Aurilia SS Season .281 17 46
vs. pitcher .000 0 0
Brandon Phillips 2B Season .289 11 57
vs. pitcher --- 0 0
Javier Valentin C Season .238 5 21
vs. pitcher 1.000 0 0
Chris Michalak P Season .500 0 0
vs. pitcher --- 0 0

Starting Pitcher
Name Season/vs Wins Losses Saves ERA
Chris Michalak P Season 1 0 0 1.35
vs. Pirates 0 0 0
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Old 08-18-2006, 06:11 PM   #28
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Re: 8/18 - Reds v. Pirates

Beyond the top two, I've seen much worse lineups out of the Pirates. Jack Wilson should be hitting seventh or eighth and Chris Duffy is having rookie issues, but otherwise it's a solid-hitting bunch.

Especially against lefthanders.
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Old 08-18-2006, 06:29 PM   #29
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Re: 8/18 - Reds v. Pirates

I do like Ian Snell a lot, actually.

But we win tonight. I bet my beer.

edit: of which I have already had two. Dang double headers.
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Re: 8/18 - Reds v. Pirates

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I do like Ian Snell a lot, actually.

But we win tonight. I bet my beer.

edit: of which I have already had two. Dang double headers.
When you say "double headers," are you referring to big beers or consecutive baseball games?
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