Valentin signs extension for 2007, club option for '08 - RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion

Danny Serafini · 08-28-2006, 04:27 PM

He and the team have agreed to a 1 year extension with a club option for 2008 according to the team press notes. Financials weren't given.

flyer85 · 08-28-2006, 04:27 PM

Seems like a good move. Javy certainly is a viable backup catcher.

Strikes Out Looking · 08-28-2006, 04:31 PM

So what do they do with LaRue? He is under contract for '08 I believe.

flyer85 · 08-28-2006, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Centralchamps05

So what do they do with LaRue?

or Ross? I can't imagine the 3 headed catcher will continue.

redsfan30 · 08-28-2006, 04:32 PM

They seem happy with the three catchers, but I can't see it happening again next year.

Ltlabner · 08-28-2006, 04:34 PM

I've grown to like Javy. As a backup, with a reasonable contract, I think he brings the ablity to PH and speak spanish to the table. He's so-so defensivley but has some pop in his bat when he is hitting well.

But as mentioned, can the three-headed catcher continue?

Jefferson24 · 08-28-2006, 04:45 PM

LaRue has to go. Somehow we have to package him with someone that we can afford to loose so that we can dump that salary, even if it's only for a minor league prospect. I doubt anyone would trade for LaRue outright after the season he has had. That money could then be used to sign Ross to a multi-year deal. 5.2 million a year is way too much for a sub .200 benchwarmer.

Tornon · 08-28-2006, 04:48 PM

It's a difficult situation.. Javy's best role on the team this year has been as a PH and unless we have 3 catchers we can't really use him as a PH all the time because we need to save a backup catcher just in case (unless we decide to completely throw that strategy out the window)

Javy Pornstache · 08-28-2006, 05:23 PM

Best decision eva.

919191 · 08-28-2006, 05:25 PM

Has Ross had asny experience at first base? If so, it could keep his bat in the lineup.

crazybob60 · 08-28-2006, 05:29 PM

I think we need to move LaRue as soon as possible or just cut our losses there and not go with the three headed catcher next season AT ALL!!! Ross for the most part and then Valentin backing him up and also as a very viable pinch hitter.

keeganbrick · 08-28-2006, 05:30 PM

Good, one of the better backup catchers in the league. Im hoping this will be the nail in the coffin for LaRue and the Reds.

MaineRed · 08-28-2006, 05:44 PM

In games where Larue has batted 2 or more times, the Reds are 30-22.

I wasn't sure where to find the W-L numbers on games he had started. I figured if he had two ABs or more he caught most of the game. If anyone has the exact number, that would be great.

Larue is the best defensive catcher on the Reds and I don't think it is coincidence that the Reds are much better when he catches, even if he is a blackhole at the plate.

Defense matters.

Tom Servo · 08-28-2006, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MaineRed

In games where Larue has batted 2 or more times, the Reds are 30-22.

I wasn't sure where to find the W-L numbers on games he had started. I figured if he had two ABs or more he caught most of the game. If anyone has the exact number, that would be great.

Larue is the best defensive catcher on the Reds and I don't think it is coincidence that the Reds are much better when he catches, even if he is a blackhole at the plate.

Defense matters.

Keep in mind that LaRue catches for Harang, our leader in wins, and I believe that he caught most of our games in April when we went 18-8, back when LaRue actually knew how to hit the ball and we had Kearns/FeLo. I'd be willing to bet our record with LaRue starting since June or so isn't so good.

And hell, look at the fact that David Ross hit that pinch hit HR to beat the Cards when LaRue started.

MaineRed · 08-28-2006, 06:43 PM

Larue was hurt in April and only caught six games.

Since the end of June the Reds have gone 23-28. In games Larue has recieved two or more ABs in that time, the Reds are 12-11. That means they are 11-17 when he doesn't play.

Its more than Aaron Harrang IMO. Ross puts up great numbers, but we win more with Larue. The Reds didn't win any games in July with Ross as the starter. None.

08-28-2006, 04:27 PM	#1
Danny Serafini 15 game winner Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sultanes de Monterrey Posts: 4,174	Valentin signs extension for 2007, club option for '08 He and the team have agreed to a 1 year extension with a club option for 2008 according to the team press notes. Financials weren't given. Last edited by Danny Serafini; 08-28-2006 at 06:41 PM.

08-28-2006, 04:27 PM	#2
flyer85 He has the Evil Eye! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: south of the border Posts: 23,858	Re: Valentin brought back next year Seems like a good move. Javy certainly is a viable backup catcher. __________________ What are you, people? On dope? - Mr Hand

08-28-2006, 04:31 PM	#3
Strikes Out Looking Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 2,273	Re: Valentin brought back next year So what do they do with LaRue? He is under contract for '08 I believe. __________________ The Future Is Now!

08-28-2006, 04:32 PM	#5
redsfan30 Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,546	Re: Valentin brought back next year They seem happy with the three catchers, but I can't see it happening again next year. __________________ "Strickland Propane... Taste the meat, not the heat." - Hank Hill

08-28-2006, 04:34 PM	#6
Ltlabner 2009: Fail Join Date: May 2006 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 7,441	Re: Valentin brought back next year I've grown to like Javy. As a backup, with a reasonable contract, I think he brings the ablity to PH and speak spanish to the table. He's so-so defensivley but has some pop in his bat when he is hitting well. But as mentioned, can the three-headed catcher continue? __________________ a super volcano of ridonkulous suckitude. I simply don't have access to a "cares about RBI" place in my psyche. There is a "mildly curious about OBI%" alcove just before the acid filled lake guarded by robot snipers with lasers which leads to the "cares about RBI" antechamber though. - Nate

08-28-2006, 04:45 PM	#7
Jefferson24 Plan to be spontaneous Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Illinios Posts: 1,178	Re: Valentin brought back next year LaRue has to go. Somehow we have to package him with someone that we can afford to loose so that we can dump that salary, even if it's only for a minor league prospect. I doubt anyone would trade for LaRue outright after the season he has had. That money could then be used to sign Ross to a multi-year deal. 5.2 million a year is way too much for a sub .200 benchwarmer.

08-28-2006, 04:48 PM	#8
Tornon Who, What, Where, When? Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,533	Re: Valentin brought back next year It's a difficult situation.. Javy's best role on the team this year has been as a PH and unless we have 3 catchers we can't really use him as a PH all the time because we need to save a backup catcher just in case (unless we decide to completely throw that strategy out the window)

08-28-2006, 05:23 PM	#9
Javy Pornstache The Latin Heartthrob Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 626	Re: Valentin brought back next year Best decision eva.

08-28-2006, 05:25 PM	#10
919191 Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: the corner bar Posts: 3,752	Re: Valentin brought back next year Has Ross had asny experience at first base? If so, it could keep his bat in the lineup. __________________ I've been to dinner at Jimmy Buffet's house, and I've eaten it at a homeless shelter. And there's great joy and harrowing terror to be found in both places. -Todd Snider

08-28-2006, 05:29 PM	#11
crazybob60 Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Brownsville, KY Posts: 959	Re: Valentin brought back next year I think we need to move LaRue as soon as possible or just cut our losses there and not go with the three headed catcher next season AT ALL!!! Ross for the most part and then Valentin backing him up and also as a very viable pinch hitter.

08-28-2006, 05:30 PM	#12
keeganbrick Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 1,439	Re: Valentin brought back next year Good, one of the better backup catchers in the league. Im hoping this will be the nail in the coffin for LaRue and the Reds. __________________ Cincinnati Reds VOTTO

08-28-2006, 05:44 PM	#13
MaineRed Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Maine Posts: 1,850	Re: Valentin brought back next year In games where Larue has batted 2 or more times, the Reds are 30-22. I wasn't sure where to find the W-L numbers on games he had started. I figured if he had two ABs or more he caught most of the game. If anyone has the exact number, that would be great. Larue is the best defensive catcher on the Reds and I don't think it is coincidence that the Reds are much better when he catches, even if he is a blackhole at the plate. Defense matters. Last edited by MaineRed; 08-28-2006 at 05:48 PM.

08-28-2006, 06:43 PM	#15
MaineRed Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Maine Posts: 1,850	Re: Valentin signs extension for 2007, club option for '08 Larue was hurt in April and only caught six games. Since the end of June the Reds have gone 23-28. In games Larue has recieved two or more ABs in that time, the Reds are 12-11. That means they are 11-17 when he doesn't play. Its more than Aaron Harrang IMO. Ross puts up great numbers, but we win more with Larue. The Reds didn't win any games in July with Ross as the starter. None. Last edited by MaineRed; 08-28-2006 at 06:49 PM.

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