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HumnHilghtFreel · 09-03-2006, 03:56 PM

This kid is going absolutely nuts hitting the ball. Today against the Braves he's 4-4 with 3 HR to give him 52 on the year.

I saw the discussion on TV the other day, do you think he'll get past 61 this year and if he does, will he be, in your eyes, the first person to do it without an asterisk next to his name?

crazybob60 · 09-03-2006, 04:01 PM

WOW!!! That is some more of a day that he is having, and of the 7 guys that have 61 or more homers in a season...

1. Barry Bonds 73 2001
2. Mark McGwire 70 1998
3. Sammy Sosa 66 1998
4. Mark McGwire 65 1999
5. Sammy Sosa 64 2001
6. Sammy Sosa 63 1999
7. Roger Maris 61 1961

Yes, I do believe that he would be the only one not to raise suspicions other than of course Maris. So yes, he could be the only legit one to break the 61 mark, and yes, it would be interesting to see how far he can get and I would be so happy if he could break that Bonds single season mark...that would be nice!!!

mth123 · 09-03-2006, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by crazybob60

I would be so happy if he could break that Bonds single season mark...that would be nice!!!

If he does that, the Phils win the wildcard. I personally hope he doesn't hit another all year. But I understand your point.

mbgrayson · 09-03-2006, 04:04 PM

Braves take lead in 9th! Diaz 3 run shot!

mbgrayson · 09-03-2006, 04:23 PM

Phils win 8 to 7....OOOOH.

NastyBoy · 09-04-2006, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by dburke1337

This kid is going absolutely nuts hitting the ball. Today against the Braves he's 4-4 with 3 HR to give him 52 on the year.

I saw the discussion on TV the other day, do you think he'll get past 61 this year and if he does, will he be, in your eyes, the first person to do it without an asterisk next to his name?

He is still not nearly as good as Dunn.

Stewie · 09-04-2006, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by NastyBoy

He is still not nearly as good as Dunn.

Well, that is debatable. This season, Howard is batting .308/.401/.660 with 52 homers. All of which would be career highs for Dunn.

Don't get me wrong, I like Adam Dunn, but he hasn't had a season like the one Ryan Howard is having.

IamWallaman · 09-04-2006, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by NastyBoy

He is still not nearly as good as Dunn.

Did you forget your

?

Howard looks like he could easily take the HR title if his career is short on injuries... and he can hit for AVG, too.

Pujols has some stiff competition for the most dominant hitter in the NL now.

Highlifeman21 · 09-04-2006, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by NastyBoy

He is still not nearly as good as Dunn.

You so sure about that?

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Career Numbers

Player		H/162	HR/162	TB/162	BB/162	K/162	OBP	SLG	OPS	AVG
Dunn		139	40	292	113	182	.381	.520	.901	.248
Howard		171	51	356	75	179	.382	.622	1.004	.300

These say you're wrong, but I knew that without looking up these numbers.

I'm one of the biggest Dunn supporters around, but Ryan Howard's certainly had a better start to his career.

dougdirt · 09-04-2006, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by IamWallaman

Did you forget your

?

Howard looks like he could easily take the HR title if his career is short on injuries... and he can hit for AVG, too.

He started his career way to far into his 20s to make a legit run. He is 26 now and just in his 2nd full year.

IamWallaman · 09-04-2006, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dougdirt

He started his career way to far into his 20s to make a legit run. He is 26 now and just in his 2nd full year.

Older than I remembered off hand... oh well...

He's still a top tier hitter. 50+ HR his first full year... wow!

91OSUAlum · 09-04-2006, 10:09 PM

Just because the Phils were too stupid to bring this guy up sooner, do not penalize him. He hit over .300 for a few years at the AAA level and if the Phils had not goofed by signing Thome, he would have been up at 24. He is MUCH better than Dunn. It is really not close.

NJReds · 09-05-2006, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by NastyBoy

He is still not nearly as good as Dunn.

Ryan is putting up numbers that I thought Dunn would attain. He still might, but I doubt it.

lollipopcurve · 09-05-2006, 09:13 AM

Howard is better than Dunn, in my opinion. His quick compact swing allows him to handle inside stuff and wait on and drive pitches the other way. Not quite as compact as Bonds, but he's in the neighborhood. He''ll probably have a fairly large adjustment to make as teams pitch around him, but I think he'll be able to stay patient.

Jim · 09-05-2006, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 91OSUAlum

Just because the Phils were too stupid to bring this guy up sooner, do not penalize him. He hit over .300 for a few years at the AAA level and if the Phils had not goofed by signing Thome, he would have been up at 24. He is MUCH better than Dunn. It is really not close.

Agreed. Thome at first stunted Howard's oppty at first. He's going to be one of the top hitting 1B's for the next 5+ years assuming that he doesn't get injured.

09-03-2006, 03:56 PM	#1
HumnHilghtFreel Manliness Personified Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,690	Ryan Howard This kid is going absolutely nuts hitting the ball. Today against the Braves he's 4-4 with 3 HR to give him 52 on the year. I saw the discussion on TV the other day, do you think he'll get past 61 this year and if he does, will he be, in your eyes, the first person to do it without an asterisk next to his name?

09-03-2006, 04:01 PM	#2
crazybob60 Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Brownsville, KY Posts: 956	Re: Ryan Howard WOW!!! That is some more of a day that he is having, and of the 7 guys that have 61 or more homers in a season... 1. Barry Bonds 73 2001 2. Mark McGwire 70 1998 3. Sammy Sosa 66 1998 4. Mark McGwire 65 1999 5. Sammy Sosa 64 2001 6. Sammy Sosa 63 1999 7. Roger Maris 61 1961 Yes, I do believe that he would be the only one not to raise suspicions other than of course Maris. So yes, he could be the only legit one to break the 61 mark, and yes, it would be interesting to see how far he can get and I would be so happy if he could break that Bonds single season mark...that would be nice!!!

09-03-2006, 04:04 PM	#4
mbgrayson Red's fan Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Montana Posts: 1,934	Re: Ryan Howard Braves take lead in 9th! Diaz 3 run shot! __________________ __________________ "I genuinely like this team. I like the vibe and spirit of this team. This is just the beginning." Dusty on 2/19/12.

09-03-2006, 04:23 PM	#5
mbgrayson Red's fan Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Montana Posts: 1,934	Re: Ryan Howard Phils win 8 to 7....OOOOH. __________________ __________________ "I genuinely like this team. I like the vibe and spirit of this team. This is just the beginning." Dusty on 2/19/12.

09-04-2006, 10:09 PM	#12
91OSUAlum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 38	Re: Ryan Howard Just because the Phils were too stupid to bring this guy up sooner, do not penalize him. He hit over .300 for a few years at the AAA level and if the Phils had not goofed by signing Thome, he would have been up at 24. He is MUCH better than Dunn. It is really not close.

09-05-2006, 09:13 AM	#14
lollipopcurve Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Shelburne Falls, MA Posts: 9,484	Re: Ryan Howard Howard is better than Dunn, in my opinion. His quick compact swing allows him to handle inside stuff and wait on and drive pitches the other way. Not quite as compact as Bonds, but he's in the neighborhood. He''ll probably have a fairly large adjustment to make as teams pitch around him, but I think he'll be able to stay patient. __________________ "Baseball is a very, very complex business. It's more of a people business than most businesses." - Bob Castellini

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