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09-18-2006, 04:28 PM
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worst trade ever with astros
how about this acumen
Joaquin Andujar for Luis Sanchez and some other guy |
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09-18-2006, 05:07 PM
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This one's for you Edd
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Re: worst trade ever with astros
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Sheesh. How could you forget??? 
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09-18-2006, 05:29 PM
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Re: worst trade ever with astros
You mean the Reds had Andujar? Owwie.
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09-18-2006, 05:35 PM
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This one's for you Edd
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IIRC--and the brain's not real sharp as it used to be - He got into it with Vern Rapp at Indy - and he didn't have much control - Nuke LaLoosh-like. Howsam pawned him off - and it "clicked". Andujar used to always love pitching against the Reds. He always seemed to do well, and let the Reds know they made a mistake.
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09-18-2006, 05:42 PM
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Re: worst trade ever with astros
they thought it was more exigent to kepp Santo Alcala instead
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09-18-2006, 06:17 PM
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09-18-2006, 06:26 PM
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09-18-2006, 11:41 PM
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Re: worst trade ever with astros
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 (Not laughing at racism, but at the Reds)Andujar wasn't 100% "with it", but he had talent.
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09-19-2006, 01:00 AM
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Re: worst trade ever with astros
talent was not important to the hierarchy, fitting in with the demographic was the key
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09-19-2006, 07:54 AM
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Re: worst trade ever with astros
From wikipedia and something that a lot of us "older types" probably remember:
In 1985, Andújar went 21-12 and made his fourth All-Star team as the Cardinals returned to the World Series. The World Series against the Kansas City Royals was a disaster for Andújar. He started and lost Game 3; manager Whitey Herzog said the umpires gave Saberhagen a wide strike zone and squeezed Andjuar. In game 7, with the Cardinals losing 11-0, Herzog brought in Andujar to mop up. Umpire Don Denkinger called the first pitch a ball even though it was a perfect strike. Whitey Herzog exploded and was ejected. Andujar was ejected after the next pitch by umpire Don Denkinger, who misread a gesture by Joaquin Andujar to his catcher. Some believe that Cardinals manager Whitey Herzog purposely sent the volatile Andújar to the mound as payback for Don Denkinger's infamous call in Game 6. Before getting ejected by Denkinger in Game 7, Herzog said to Denkinger, "We wouldn't even be here if you hadn't missed the ****ing call last night!" However, Herzog has often stated Andújar was his only pitcher that still had any life left in his arm. Andújar was so furious that after Game 7, he took a baseball bat and smashed a toilet in the Cardinals' clubhouse in Kansas City's Royals Stadium. Cardinal ownership demanded Andujar be traded after the Series, and the Cardinals traded him to Oakland. Before he could play for Oakland, he was suspended 10 games (reduced to 5) for the World Series altercation with Denkinger. He and six other players were suspended for the 1986 season for admitting during the Pittsburgh drug trials that they had abused cocaine. The suspensions were reduced to anti-drug donations and community service. I used to think the guy was crazy! I'll never forget his blowup in game 7 of the 1985 Series. I just sat there and couldn't believe that someone could act like that in the World Series and not be ashamed.
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