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cincy jacket · 10-26-2006, 11:01 AM

Came across this on espn.com it's part of the insider thing and I don't know the rules about copy and pasting that onto here so I won't ,but it's pretty interesting. I guess the Cardinals had their scoreboard operators make Zumaya's pitch speed about 5-7 mph lower than what it really was when they showed it on the scoreboard. Sounds like the ol' baseball genius at his finest again.

flyer85 · 10-26-2006, 12:32 PM

if true, that is really funny. It should break pitchers of wanting to look at their pitch speed displayed on the scoreboard.

SultanOfSwing · 10-26-2006, 12:42 PM

I had the same feeling when listening to the game. Some of his pitches were only being clocked a 94 MPH. That is a Zumaya changeup!

Miller even had the same idea and said the TV radar had much faster speed. It seems pretty underhanded to me. Miller said Zumaya was overthrowing to get to 100 MPH and it cost him control.

traderumor · 10-26-2006, 01:24 PM

I've been thinking that the FOX guns were on steroids throughout the postseason. But I'm sure there is no correlation between arm injuries and watching radar guns. They need to get rid of those things in the ballparks and on the tv screens.

NJReds · 10-26-2006, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by traderumor

They need to get rid of those things in the ballparks and on the tv screens.

Especially if they're going to mess with the accuracy of the readings.

dabvu2498 · 10-26-2006, 02:36 PM

Gammons was just on with Dan Patrick and says it happens more often than you'd think.

He specifically said that Boston would do it to Jose Contreras to try to get in his head.

Always Red · 10-26-2006, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ricardo Cabesa

if true, that is really funny. It should break pitchers of wanting to look at their pitch speed displayed on the scoreboard.

That is funny; if they really wanted to mess with their heads, they should increase the mph of the off speed stuff, and decrease the mph of the fastball, to show not much difference in changing speeds, which of course, is how most MLB hitters are gotten out in the first place.

That'd be one confused pitcher out there. The smart ones never turn around and look at the board.

Matt700wlw · 10-26-2006, 03:18 PM

Home field advantage...

edabbs44 · 10-26-2006, 03:38 PM

They used to turn off the guns in Shea when Benitez was pitching for the Mets. He would get whiplash after every pitch.

Johnny Footstool · 10-26-2006, 04:18 PM

Just randomly generate a two-digit number after each pitch.

flyer85 · 10-26-2006, 04:22 PM

When Cincy pitchers come to town they probably add 4-5 mph hoping the Reds pitchers will challenge Albert Pujols among others.

guttle11 · 10-26-2006, 04:36 PM

People are trying WAY too hard to create storylines in this World Series.

Roy Tucker · 10-26-2006, 04:47 PM

I think it's funny. Gamesmanship.

Bud will probably order the radar gun be calibrated by an independent 3rd party and then sealed. Take all the fun out of it.

flyer85 · 10-26-2006, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Roy Tucker

I think it's funny. Gamesmanship.

This is one of the better ones of recent memory.

Yachtzee · 10-26-2006, 05:40 PM

If you really wanted to mess with the pitcher, just replace the scoreboard radar gun with a classic game of Pong.

10-26-2006, 11:01 AM	#1
cincy jacket Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 214	Zumaya-gate Came across this on espn.com it's part of the insider thing and I don't know the rules about copy and pasting that onto here so I won't ,but it's pretty interesting. I guess the Cardinals had their scoreboard operators make Zumaya's pitch speed about 5-7 mph lower than what it really was when they showed it on the scoreboard. Sounds like the ol' baseball genius at his finest again. __________________ Never let facts get in the way of a good rant.

10-26-2006, 12:32 PM	#2
flyer85 He has the Evil Eye! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: south of the border Posts: 23,858	Re: Zumaya-gate if true, that is really funny. It should break pitchers of wanting to look at their pitch speed displayed on the scoreboard. __________________ What are you, people? On dope? - Mr Hand

10-26-2006, 12:42 PM	#3
SultanOfSwing Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 317	Re: Zumaya-gate I had the same feeling when listening to the game. Some of his pitches were only being clocked a 94 MPH. That is a Zumaya changeup! Miller even had the same idea and said the TV radar had much faster speed. It seems pretty underhanded to me. Miller said Zumaya was overthrowing to get to 100 MPH and it cost him control.

10-26-2006, 01:24 PM	#4
traderumor Unsolicited Opinions Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Right Down Broadway Posts: 17,666	Re: Zumaya-gate I've been thinking that the FOX guns were on steroids throughout the postseason. But I'm sure there is no correlation between arm injuries and watching radar guns. They need to get rid of those things in the ballparks and on the tv screens.

10-26-2006, 02:36 PM	#6
dabvu2498 Yay! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Middletown, Ohio Posts: 7,262	Re: Zumaya-gate Gammons was just on with Dan Patrick and says it happens more often than you'd think. He specifically said that Boston would do it to Jose Contreras to try to get in his head. __________________ When all is said and done more is said than done.

10-26-2006, 03:18 PM	#8
Matt700wlw Making sense of it all Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 26,131	Re: Zumaya-gate Home field advantage... __________________ An excited shade of Red

10-26-2006, 03:38 PM	#9
edabbs44 Box of Frogs Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 15,824	Re: Zumaya-gate They used to turn off the guns in Shea when Benitez was pitching for the Mets. He would get whiplash after every pitch.

10-26-2006, 04:18 PM	#10
Johnny Footstool Churlish Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Olathe, KS Posts: 13,669	Re: Zumaya-gate Just randomly generate a two-digit number after each pitch. __________________ "I prefer books and movies where the conflict isn't of the extreme cannibal apocalypse variety I guess." Redsfaithful

10-26-2006, 04:22 PM	#11
flyer85 He has the Evil Eye! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: south of the border Posts: 23,858	Re: Zumaya-gate When Cincy pitchers come to town they probably add 4-5 mph hoping the Reds pitchers will challenge Albert Pujols among others. __________________ What are you, people? On dope? - Mr Hand

10-26-2006, 04:36 PM	#12
guttle11 Raaaaaaaandy Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,118	Re: Zumaya-gate People are trying WAY too hard to create storylines in this World Series. __________________ "I saw Wedding Crashers accidentally. I bought a ticket for Grizzly Man and went into the wrong theater. After an hour, I figured I was in the wrong theater, but I kept waiting. That’s the thing about bear attacks. They come when you least expect it."-Dwight K. Schrute

10-26-2006, 04:47 PM	#13
Roy Tucker Be the ball Join Date: May 2001 Location: Mason, OH Posts: 11,128	Re: Zumaya-gate I think it's funny. Gamesmanship. Bud will probably order the radar gun be calibrated by an independent 3rd party and then sealed. Take all the fun out of it. __________________ The motel of lost companions Waits with heated pool and bar

10-26-2006, 05:40 PM	#15
Yachtzee Hisssssssss Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Land of the Lost Posts: 6,987	Re: Zumaya-gate If you really wanted to mess with the pitcher, just replace the scoreboard radar gun with a classic game of Pong. __________________ "I don't classify 'em, I just pacify 'em." - George Foster.

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