Bengals v. Ravens -- 'Do or die?'

[Matt700wlw]

Winning 6 out of the next 8 is asking a lot....

[flyer85]

Originally Posted by traderumor

It seems that you assume because Henry has made some really dumb moves off the field that it is proof enough that he is a "quitter."

It proves he has character flaws. Character flaws will manifest themselves when the times get really bad, not the 4th quarter of a close game, which is when Henry made his "big" plays. Character flaws are what cause people to quit when your back is against the wall and things look bad(like the hail mary pass at the end). Why couldn't Henry have just made the effort to make a play? Because Henry had already quit and conceded defeat. That mindset can become an epidemic if not addressed, which Carson did(he didn't quit even thought the situation was bleak).

[flyer85]

Originally Posted by Matt700wlw

Winning 6 out of the next 8 is asking a lot....

you win one at a time and fight as hard as you can each week and see where you end up. Nothing less than that should be acceptable.

[WVRed]

Originally Posted by MWM

NO way! Baltimore will be exposed. They're really not that good a football team.

They will be exposed in the first round of the playoffs, which is farther than the Bengals and Steelers will get.

Even if the Ravens do start to lose, we still have to win. Oakland, Pittsburgh(maybe), and Cleveland are about the only two winnable games that we have left.

[traderumor]

Originally Posted by Ricardo Cabesa

It proves he has character flaws. Character flaws will manifest themselves when the times get really bad, not the 4th quarter of a close game, which is when Henry made his "big" plays. Character flaws are what cause people to quit when your back is against the wall and things look bad(like the hail mary pass at the end). Why couldn't Henry have just made the effort to make a play? Because Henry had already quit and conceded defeat. That mindset can become an epidemic if not addressed, which Carson did(he didn't quit even thought the situation was bleak).

Regardless of how many artificial distinctions you create, I wasn't aware that there was a direct correspondence to partying and other unlawful off-field activity and "quitting" in an athletic competition. Honestly, I asked the same question of Henry you did, but "oh, he's a gun-toting, beer drinkin' thug" didn't enter the equation. From what I saw, he wasn't looking back for the ball, so either Palmer threw it too soon or he took too long to get to the spot, or Palmer just plain overthrew him (see 1st Qtr INT and other assorted overthrows the entire game), or he was skipping down the field because he had given up. And Palmer ain't revealing his side of the story.

BTW, maybe Henry was laying back hoping for the DB to tip the ball right to him so he could waltz to the end zone .

[guttle11]

Originally Posted by WVRed

They will be exposed in the first round of the playoffs, which is farther than the Bengals and Steelers will get.

Even if the Ravens do start to lose, we still have to win. Oakland, Pittsburgh(maybe), and Cleveland are about the only two winnable games that we have left.

That's ridiculous. San Diego isn't really that good, the Saints aren't really that good, Denver's offense is too hit or miss, and Rudi's liable to run for 200+ against the Colts. Baltimore at home? I'll take the Bengals.

They have to play better, that's for sure. If they play well, there's not a team in the league they can't beat.

It's a daunting schedule, but of the remaining teams the Bengals play, they're better than all but maybe two of them when they play the way they are capable of playing. It's put up or shut up time. 4-4. This is the time where champions, and also rans, are made.