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Smells Like Teen Spirit
Join Date: Apr 2004
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MLB completely overhauls both June Draft & Rule V Draft in new CBA
Pretty substantial changes to how the baseball draft works have been implemented in the new bargaining agreement.
No more draft and follows are allowed - a total change in compensation for not signing a 1st round pick, and a uniform Aug 15th deadline for picks to be signed. Also added years to when players are to be made available for the Rule V Draft - which take effect immediately. http://www.baseballamerica.com/today...ws/262720.html Quote:
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Passion for the game
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Re: MLB completely overhauls both June Draft & Rule V Draft in new CBA
Alot of hard work went into this process. There were far more people involved in the "backroom negoatiations" than that of any other time I haver ever heard. This was truly a "collective" process.
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Puffy's Daddy
Join Date: Dec 2001
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Re: MLB completely overhauls both June Draft & Rule V Draft in new CBA
So, if I'm understanding correctly, if in an amateur draft there are only 19 "stud" prospects and then a pretty big drop off, and you draft 20th, you can pick whoever you want, not sign them and get a #21 pick the following year? Same situation in the 2nd round. You draft 20th in the second round. You only like 19 players in the 2nd round, so you draft someone, don't sign them and get the 21st pick the next year.
Now, what if you are the Royals. You have the #2 pick. You draft a Boras client, don't sign him and finish with the worst record in baseball in 2007. You now have the #1 and #3 picks in the draft for 2008. Hmmmmm.
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The Lineups stink.
Join Date: Jun 2003
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Re: MLB completely overhauls both June Draft & Rule V Draft in new CBA
Punting your first round pick is no longer terrible, someone tell Bowden
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Re: MLB completely overhauls both June Draft & Rule V Draft in new CBA
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It also allows cheap clubs to re-draft prospects who refused to sign with them the previous year. For instance, some stud HS outfielder gets drafted by a team with the #7 pick, but refuses to sign. The next year, the team gets its regular pick (#10 for the sake of argument) plus the #8 pick as compensation. So they draft the same HS outfielder again (with the #10 pick this time, not with their compensation pick) and tell him he can either sign or go earn $15K playing in the Independent League for a second straight year. No skin off their backs, because they still have a first-round pick and they'll get the #11 pick as compensation next year. Nice.
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Re: MLB completely overhauls both June Draft & Rule V Draft in new CBA
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I wish they would have modified the rules so that either draft picks could be traded, or that draftees could be traded much earlier than the current 1 year obligation with the drafting/signing team. Last edited by 15fan; 10-26-2006 at 08:59 AM. |
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Puffy's Daddy
Join Date: Dec 2001
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Re: MLB completely overhauls both June Draft & Rule V Draft in new CBA
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Why wouldn't all teams do this? Why wouldn't you punt your 1st round pick this year and get 2 next year. Even if you do it in the 2nd round this year. Draft one solid player and one total reach pick with the other first rounder. Worst case, you've got two picks every year. Best case you've got two studs to add to your farm system and only 1 pick the next year...
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Re: MLB completely overhauls both June Draft & Rule V Draft in new CBA
I like the fact that the first 3 rounds in the draft are allowed comp picks for not signing the previous years picks. I also like the fact that players get 1 more year before having to be protected in the Rule V draft. What happens to this years draft and follows? Will they still be allowed to sign before the 2007 draft?
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The Lineups stink.
Join Date: Jun 2003
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Re: MLB completely overhauls both June Draft & Rule V Draft in new CBA
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The new agreement doesn't go into effect until next year, so yes they will.
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Re: MLB completely overhauls both June Draft & Rule V Draft in new CBA
Thanks Kronored. I was thinking it would still be allowed. It was confusing that somethings start now with new arbitration offer deadline of Dec 1.
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Re: MLB completely overhauls both June Draft & Rule V Draft in new CBA
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One of the things the article doesn't make clear is how the comp picks dovetail with the regular picks. The example is that if #5 doesn't sign its pick, next year it gets #6. I think that probably means the comp pick comes after the #5 regular pick but before the #6 regular pick, not that the team is guaranteed the sixth overall pick for its comp.
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It gives the teams more leverage...but given all things equal...we really want the best players we can get each year working their way through our system so they can help the Reds on the field or be available to trade for MLB players at positions of need. It is not in our best long term interest to punt draft choices...but it does protect us better if we make a good faith offer and the kid won't sign...we at least salvage the draft pick.
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