Reds sign Bubba Crosby - RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion

dsmith421 · 11-10-2006, 06:41 PM

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/a...2006&fext=.jsp

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"We're getting a guy that's been on winning teams, that plays the game the right way, that always plays it hard and can play all three outfield positions," Reds general manager Wayne Krivsky said. "We're happy to have him."

vaticanplum · 11-10-2006, 06:48 PM

Ok, they're cliches and we can jump all over them. But I would say there's some truth in this case. The "plays on winning teams" thing is bull (it's not important, I mean). But the rest is true. He's a traditionally scrappy, incredibly hard-working, hard-playing type of player. Low-cost, low-risk move.

You guys have to remember that this is the Reds, and the great majority of their fanbase, excepting the freaks like us, read the press releases for newly-signed bench players for five seconds and don't give it a second thought. These soundbytes are what people are trained to give because it's what the public is trained to hear. A lot of Reds fans don't know who the hell Bubba Crosby is. Everything said above is pretty much all the front office can say at this point, and all the public can digest.

FlyingPig · 11-10-2006, 06:52 PM

So the Reds signed Bubba Crosby...

yay

WE NEED PITCHERS!

dsmith421 · 11-10-2006, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by vaticanplum

Ok, they're cliches and we can jump all over them. But I would say there's some truth in this case. The "plays on winning teams" thing is bull (it's not important, I mean). But the rest is true. He's a traditionally scrappy, incredibly hard-working, hard-playing type of player. Low-cost, low-risk move.

Would you be saying any of this if he wasn't a former Yankee?

Crosby is not a good baseball player. He's never been a good baseball player. The Reds have been accumulating guys they claim "play the game the right way" for six years now and have been a losing team for six years. I'm getting sick and tired of these platitudes.

Matt700wlw · 11-10-2006, 06:59 PM

It's a $400,000 Major League contract...it being a Major League contract protects him on the 40 man roster...if he spends his year in the majors (I don't have exact numbers), he gets all the money...if he spends it in the minors, he gets $75,000 or so.

(info from Reds.com and Fox Sports Radio)

alloverjr · 11-10-2006, 07:02 PM

I would imagine the part that he needs to work on that Krivsky was referring to was "how to be almost mediocre." Geesh.

vaticanplum · 11-10-2006, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dsmith421

Would you be saying any of this if he wasn't a former Yankee?

Crosby is not a good baseball player. He's never been a good baseball player. The Reds have been accumulating guys they claim "play the game the right way" for six years now and have been a losing team for six years. I'm getting sick and tired of these platitudes.

Yes, I would. I like him. "He's never been a good baseball player" according to whom? He's quick, he has good range in the field, and he's got a great arm. Would I like him as an everyday outfielder? No, although I think defensively, barring injury, he holds up to a lot of the current outfielders on our roster. (And I certainly don't believe that the Reds intend to put him in the outfield every day.) But we run around this board saying that the Reds can't spend a lot of money on big-name players, and then when they make what is essentially a no-risk move for a bench player at the start of the off-season -- a bench player who covers a few deficiences on this team in troubled late innings -- then everybody freaks out. All general management moves are not equal.

If you truly believe that the management of this team sits around their board room and on their conference calls making decisions about players because only due to their "playing the game the right way", then that's one thing. I happen to think that a lot of that is lip service for the papers and the casual fan and that the actual decisions they make involve, you know, stats and things like that, things like realizing that Crosby is very likely to spend some time in the minors next year and so that essentially amounts to $75,000 for a decent defensive option, but maybe I'm crazy. Because I'm a Yankees fan and all.

Caveat Emperor · 11-10-2006, 07:08 PM

As a bench-option, he's a shade above awful with the stick and a shade above average with the glove. Not a move I can get too mad about, given the shortness of the contract and the small amount of dollars being spent, but not a move that I really care too much for either.

Given his marginal talent level (he barely OPS'd .760 as a minor leaguer), he's in no danger of beating out anyone on the roster, as it is comprised right now, for a spot on the team.

Spring~Fields · 11-10-2006, 07:09 PM

If he isn't good enough for the Yankees, then why do the Reds want him?

redsupport · 11-10-2006, 07:12 PM

plays the game the right way is a euphemism for makes outs and is white

wolfboy · 11-10-2006, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dsmith421

Would you be saying any of this if he wasn't a former Yankee?

Would you be saying this if you weren't ticked about the Reds signing Crosby?

traderumor · 11-10-2006, 07:26 PM

No press conference?

Gallen5862 · 11-10-2006, 07:27 PM

http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/NASAp...s.jsp?c_id=cin
11/10/06 Released RHP Jason Standridge; Signed OF Bubba Crosby to a one-year Major League contract.

This is interesting that Standridge was released.

traderumor · 11-10-2006, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Gallen5862

http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/NASAp...s.jsp?c_id=cin
11/10/06 Released RHP Jason Standridge; Signed OF Bubba Crosby to a one-year Major League contract.

This is interesting that Standridge was released.

Standridge--the Billy Martin of fringe pitchers.

Falls City Beer · 11-10-2006, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by redsupport

plays the game the right way is a euphemism for makes outs and is white

Brilliant. I'm telling you, Podsednik is right around the corner, folks.

11-10-2006, 06:48 PM	#2
vaticanplum Has big taste Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 6,704	Re: Reds sign Bubba Crosby Ok, they're cliches and we can jump all over them. But I would say there's some truth in this case. The "plays on winning teams" thing is bull (it's not important, I mean). But the rest is true. He's a traditionally scrappy, incredibly hard-working, hard-playing type of player. Low-cost, low-risk move. You guys have to remember that this is the Reds, and the great majority of their fanbase, excepting the freaks like us, read the press releases for newly-signed bench players for five seconds and don't give it a second thought. These soundbytes are what people are trained to give because it's what the public is trained to hear. A lot of Reds fans don't know who the hell Bubba Crosby is. Everything said above is pretty much all the front office can say at this point, and all the public can digest. __________________ There is no such thing as a pitching prospect.

11-10-2006, 06:52 PM	#3
FlyingPig Reds and 26.2's Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Gastonia, NC Posts: 648	Re: Reds sign Bubba Crosby So the Reds signed Bubba Crosby... yay WE NEED PITCHERS!

11-10-2006, 06:59 PM	#5
Matt700wlw Making sense of it all Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 26,129	Re: Reds sign Bubba Crosby It's a $400,000 Major League contract...it being a Major League contract protects him on the 40 man roster...if he spends his year in the majors (I don't have exact numbers), he gets all the money...if he spends it in the minors, he gets $75,000 or so. (info from Reds.com and Fox Sports Radio) __________________ An excited shade of Red

11-10-2006, 07:02 PM	#6
alloverjr getting younger Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Valley of the Sun Posts: 1,160	Re: Reds sign Bubba Crosby I would imagine the part that he needs to work on that Krivsky was referring to was "how to be almost mediocre." Geesh. __________________ Just have to tip your cap tonight...

11-10-2006, 07:08 PM	#8
Caveat Emperor Titanic Struggles Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The 513 Posts: 12,129	Re: Reds sign Bubba Crosby As a bench-option, he's a shade above awful with the stick and a shade above average with the glove. Not a move I can get too mad about, given the shortness of the contract and the small amount of dollars being spent, but not a move that I really care too much for either. Given his marginal talent level (he barely OPS'd .760 as a minor leaguer), he's in no danger of beating out anyone on the roster, as it is comprised right now, for a spot on the team. __________________ Championships Matter. 22 Years and Counting...

11-10-2006, 07:09 PM	#9
Spring~Fields Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 8,630	Re: Reds sign Bubba Crosby If he isn't good enough for the Yankees, then why do the Reds want him?

11-10-2006, 07:12 PM	#10
redsupport Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,783	Re: Reds sign Bubba Crosby plays the game the right way is a euphemism for makes outs and is white

11-10-2006, 07:26 PM	#12
traderumor Unsolicited Opinions Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Right Down Broadway Posts: 17,631	Re: Reds sign Bubba Crosby No press conference?

11-10-2006, 07:27 PM	#13
Gallen5862 Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Wilmington,NC Posts: 5,323	Re: Reds sign Bubba Crosby http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/NASAp...s.jsp?c_id=cin 11/10/06 Released RHP Jason Standridge; Signed OF Bubba Crosby to a one-year Major League contract. This is interesting that Standridge was released.

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