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Old 11-14-2006, 04:09 PM   #1
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Derosa to Cubs- 3 yrs, $13 mil

I think that is a good pickup for them.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2661869

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Mark DeRosa is poised to cash in on his career year.

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The Chicago Cubs have reached an agreement on a three-year contract with DeRosa worth approximately $13 million, a team official familiar with the deal told ESPN The Magazine's Buster Olney.

DeRosa, who played six positions for the Rangers last season, is expected to be the Cubs' regular second baseman.

DeRosa, 31, hit a career-high .296 with 13 home runs and 74 RBI in Texas last season, his second with the Rangers. In nine seasons, DeRosa has a .273 average with 38 homers and 193 RBI.

DeRosa, who began his career with the Atlanta Braves in 1998, played in a career-high 136 games last season and hit .342 against left-handed pitchers.

The Cubs have been active this offseason, already re-signing third-baseman Aramis Ramirez to a five-year, $75 million deal and right-hander Kerry Wood to a one-year, $1.75 million contract.

Calls to the Cubs and DeRosa's agent, Lonnie Cooper, were not immediately returned.

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Old 11-14-2006, 04:10 PM   #2
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Re: Derosa to Cubs- 3 yrs, $13 mil

A little risky given his lack of track record -- but a risk the Cubs can afford.
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Old 11-14-2006, 04:18 PM   #3
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Re: Derosa to Cubs- 3 yrs, $13 mil

I think the Cubs will regret this one after a year or two.

DeRosa was incredibly lucky last season plus he was in one fo the league's best hitters parks. IMO, his value was incedibly inflated last season.

Also, DeRosa has had some very poor seasons before last season. He isn't very patient, has so-so power, and strikes out fairly often. Plus he isn't a particularly adept fielder.

A 3 year deal for a guy that is basically guaranteed to regress next year is a bad signing for the Cubs, not that I'm surprised.
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Old 11-14-2006, 04:19 PM   #4
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I think the Cubs will regret this one after a year or two.

DeRosa was incredibly lucky last season plus he was in one fo the league's best hitters parks. IMO, his value was incedibly inflated last season.

Also, DeRosa has had some very poor seasons before last season. He isn't very patient, has so-so power, and strikes out fairly often. Plus he isn't a particularly adept fielder.

A 3 year deal for a guy that is basically guaranteed to regress next year is a bad signing for the Cubs, not that I'm surprised.
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Old 11-14-2006, 04:30 PM   #5
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Re: Derosa to Cubs- 3 yrs, $13 mil

Seems like they have two shortstops now with Cesar Izturis and Ronnie Cedeno. I wonder if they will shop Cedeno?
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Old 11-14-2006, 04:48 PM   #6
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Seems like they have two shortstops now with Cesar Izturis and Ronnie Cedeno. I wonder if they will shop Cedeno?
What position do they plan to play Derosa at? I would love to have either Izturis or Cedeno.
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What position do they plan to play Derosa at? I would love to have either Izturis or Cedeno.
The article says they expect DeRosa to be their regular 2nd baseman.
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Jim Hendry is a Cardinal saboteur I tell you. It's the only way to explain the moves he makes.
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They are willing to spend, and it is better than Tony Womack.
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They are willing to spend, and it is better than Tony Womack.
That's not exactly the best reason to guarantee somebody 13M dollars.
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Old 11-14-2006, 05:10 PM   #11
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Re: Derosa to Cubs- 3 yrs, $13 mil

Hello Rich Aurillia someone just set the market for you.
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Old 11-14-2006, 05:11 PM   #12
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Re: Derosa to Cubs- 3 yrs, $13 mil

I would love to see the Reds acquire Cedeno to play either second or short. With Phillips and Cedeno, you would have one dynamic double play combination defensively. Like Phillips, it might take a year or two for the bat to come around but Cedeno is still a baby at 23 years old.
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I would love to see the Reds acquire Cedeno to play either second or short. With Phillips and Cedeno, you would have one dynamic double play combination defensively. Like Phillips, it might take a year or two for the bat to come around but Cedeno is still a baby at 23 years old.
Ronny Cedeno was absolutely brutal with the stick last year. He made Royce Clayton look like Joe DiMaggio.
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Jim Hendry is a Cardinal saboteur I tell you. It's the only way to explain the moves he makes.
You can bet your arse Wayne's angry he couldn't beat the Cubs' offer.
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Re: Derosa to Cubs- 3 yrs, $13 mil

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I would love to see the Reds acquire Cedeno to play either second or short. With Phillips and Cedeno, you would have one dynamic double play combination defensively. Like Phillips, it might take a year or two for the bat to come around but Cedeno is still a baby at 23 years old.
Actually the Cubs and Reds match-up well IMO. The Reds could not only use Cedeno or Izturis, but with Wood in the pen with Dempster, Howry and Eyre, Wuertz may be available as well. The Cubs may want Freel to play CF and lead-off with Pierre gone and Lohse may be a guy for the back of the rotation. If you really want to dream maybe Griffey goes to be a power bat and reunite with Pinella (never happen).
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