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Krusty · 12-13-2006, 09:34 AM

If you're the Reds would you offer a three year, 27 million dollar deal to RHP Jeff Suppan.....given what the market is dictating?

redsfanmia · 12-13-2006, 09:40 AM

Why spend that kind of money on Suppan? With him the Reds win 72 games instead of 65, what makes any difference?

Heath · 12-13-2006, 09:54 AM

You are spending the same money for Jeff Suppan than you are for Eric Milton.

Just sayin'

Will M · 12-13-2006, 10:11 AM

No

Suppan is a #4 starter. We don't need another one of those, especially for $$$

shredda2000 · 12-13-2006, 10:17 AM

I really like his GB/FB ratio (career 1.39, 1.61 in 2006), which I think would work well in GABP with the improved infield defense. However, 3 years at 9 mil/per is a bit too much. I would probably go 2 years though...

PuffyPig · 12-13-2006, 10:21 AM

It's likely a moot guestion, as Suppan will likely get 4 years at $11-12M per season.

Spitball · 12-13-2006, 02:16 PM

A week ago, I was against signing him for that kind of money, $27 mil for three years. Now, I'm a little more desperate and would offer it to him. However, PuffyPig is probably right about his current price tag, and I'd say no.

Ravenlord · 12-13-2006, 03:39 PM

only if Suppan was three years younger.

oneupper · 12-13-2006, 04:20 PM

There is WAY too much downside risk with Suppan.

Which one do you get: Pre ASG Suppan (5.83 ERA)
or Post ASG Suppan (2.39 ERA)

One of those is the evil twin.

Dracodave · 12-13-2006, 04:21 PM

Could he build a restruant here (Soups on) to attract more people to come to Cincinnati and then have a era below 4? Because both would be welcomed addition.

AdamDunn · 12-13-2006, 04:23 PM

No... we need to get younger, not older. Plus the market is going nuts... I wouldn't sign ANY free agent starting pitcher unless he was a #1 pitcher and I know for sure that I have a shot at making the playoffs. That would require homegrowing some #1 or #2 starting pitchers from the farm system and/or getting lucky in a trade (like we did with Arroyo) which would probably take some time.

Highlifeman21 · 12-13-2006, 04:24 PM

Suppan would be a welcomed addition as a #3 in my book.

He reinvented himself with the Cardinals and enjoyed some success. He's a pitcher, at this stage of his career, not a thrower.

Homer Bailey could learn a thing or two from this guy.

Krusty · 12-14-2006, 09:50 AM

How much of a difference is there between Suppan and Arroyo or Harang?

The guy will give you between 180-200 IPs along with 12-16 wins.

Now if you can guarantee that Milton and Lohse will provide that in the third and four spots of the rotation, I would feel more comfortable. But with the uncertain status of Claussen, we could be depending on Ramirez and Belisle to provide innings at the fifth spot, which is no sure thing.

Falls City Beer · 12-14-2006, 10:15 AM

This discussion is moot. I'm as likely to turn into Don Knotts as the Reds are to sign a FA pitcher.

Chip R · 12-14-2006, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Highlifeman21

Suppan would be a welcomed addition as a #3 in my book.

He reinvented himself with the Cardinals and enjoyed some success. He's a pitcher, at this stage of his career, not a thrower.

Homer Bailey could learn a thing or two from this guy.

And when he gets off track, Dave Duncan won't be there to fix him. Pass.

View Poll Results: Would You Sign RHP Jeff Suppan To A Three-Yr, 27 Million Dollar Contract?
Yes. Solid innings eater that could net us possibly 15 + wins	43	41.35%
No. A number 3 or 4 starter on this club isn't worth that much.	61	58.65%
Voters: 104. You may not vote on this poll

12-13-2006, 10:17 AM	#5
shredda2000 A Lost Ball In High Weeds Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dunbar, WV Posts: 630	Re: Jeff Suppan I really like his GB/FB ratio (career 1.39, 1.61 in 2006), which I think would work well in GABP with the improved infield defense. However, 3 years at 9 mil/per is a bit too much. I would probably go 2 years though... __________________ "I don't want to embarrass any other catcher by comparing him to Johnny Bench." Sparky Anderson

12-13-2006, 10:21 AM	#6
PuffyPig Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,838	Re: Jeff Suppan It's likely a moot guestion, as Suppan will likely get 4 years at $11-12M per season.

12-13-2006, 02:16 PM	#7
Spitball Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Posts: 5,498	Re: Jeff Suppan A week ago, I was against signing him for that kind of money, $27 mil for three years. Now, I'm a little more desperate and would offer it to him. However, PuffyPig is probably right about his current price tag, and I'd say no. __________________ "The trouble with trouble...it usually starts out as fun." - anonymous

12-13-2006, 03:39 PM	#8
Ravenlord Into de Halls of Valhalla Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: mostly Williamsburg....occassionaly the rest of the several state region. Posts: 8,909	Re: Jeff Suppan only if Suppan was three years younger. __________________ the store for all your blade, costuming (in any regard), leather (also in any regard), and steel craft needs.www.facebook.com/tdhshop yes, this really is how we make our living.

12-13-2006, 09:34 AM	#1
Krusty Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Williamsport, PA Posts: 12,311	Jeff Suppan If you're the Reds would you offer a three year, 27 million dollar deal to RHP Jeff Suppan.....given what the market is dictating? __________________ If you think small, you'll go nowhere in life.

12-13-2006, 09:40 AM	#2
redsfanmia Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: indianapolis, IN Posts: 3,463	Re: Jeff Suppan Why spend that kind of money on Suppan? With him the Reds win 72 games instead of 65, what makes any difference? __________________ I was in the ORG once, best 6 months of my life.

12-13-2006, 09:54 AM	#3
Heath This one's for you Edd Join Date: May 2005 Location: Dayton Area Posts: 8,471	Re: Jeff Suppan You are spending the same money for Jeff Suppan than you are for Eric Milton. Just sayin' __________________ Some people play baseball. Baseball plays Jay Bruce.

12-13-2006, 10:11 AM	#4
Will M Brett William Moore Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Crescent Springs KY Posts: 3,513	Re: Jeff Suppan No Suppan is a #4 starter. We don't need another one of those, especially for $$$ __________________ .

12-13-2006, 04:20 PM	#9
oneupper Danger is my business! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Back in Florida Posts: 7,907	Re: Jeff Suppan There is WAY too much downside risk with Suppan. Which one do you get: Pre ASG Suppan (5.83 ERA) or Post ASG Suppan (2.39 ERA) One of those is the evil twin. __________________ "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it." http://dalmady.blogspot.com

12-13-2006, 04:21 PM	#10
Dracodave Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: We have pitchers now?! Posts: 1,017	Re: Jeff Suppan Could he build a restruant here (Soups on) to attract more people to come to Cincinnati and then have a era below 4? Because both would be welcomed addition.

12-13-2006, 04:23 PM	#11
AdamDunn Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 407	Re: Jeff Suppan No... we need to get younger, not older. Plus the market is going nuts... I wouldn't sign ANY free agent starting pitcher unless he was a #1 pitcher and I know for sure that I have a shot at making the playoffs. That would require homegrowing some #1 or #2 starting pitchers from the farm system and/or getting lucky in a trade (like we did with Arroyo) which would probably take some time.

12-13-2006, 04:24 PM	#12
Highlifeman21 Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bristol, just around the corner from ESPN Posts: 8,694	Re: Jeff Suppan Suppan would be a welcomed addition as a #3 in my book. He reinvented himself with the Cardinals and enjoyed some success. He's a pitcher, at this stage of his career, not a thrower. Homer Bailey could learn a thing or two from this guy.

12-14-2006, 09:50 AM	#13
Krusty Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Williamsport, PA Posts: 12,311	Re: Jeff Suppan How much of a difference is there between Suppan and Arroyo or Harang? The guy will give you between 180-200 IPs along with 12-16 wins. Now if you can guarantee that Milton and Lohse will provide that in the third and four spots of the rotation, I would feel more comfortable. But with the uncertain status of Claussen, we could be depending on Ramirez and Belisle to provide innings at the fifth spot, which is no sure thing. __________________ If you think small, you'll go nowhere in life.

12-14-2006, 10:15 AM	#14
Falls City Beer Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 24,098	Re: Jeff Suppan This discussion is moot. I'm as likely to turn into Don Knotts as the Reds are to sign a FA pitcher.

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