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reds44 · 12-12-2006, 05:17 PM

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The Astros have acquired Jason Jennings and Miguel Asencio from the Rockies for Jason Hirsh, Willy Taveras and Taylor Buchholz, FOXSports.com's Ken Rosenthal reports.

When Houston GM Tim Purpura got his extension this winter, we indicated that he probably ranked among the top half of MLB GMs. Let us now revise that assessment. Yes, it looks like he was handcuffed by ownership on the Andy Pettitte negotiations, and indications were that the overwhelming bid for Carlos Lee was also fueled by ownership. This, however, has got to be mostly Purpura and it is one ugly trade. Hirsh is probably going to be a better pitcher than Jennings someday -- maybe as soon as 2008. We don't hold Taveras in high regard and Buchholz is probably better utilized as a reliever than as a starter, but there's no way the Astros should have made this trade, not when Jennings is just a year away from free agency.

-rotoworld

Johnny Footstool · 12-12-2006, 05:20 PM

The Astros better sign Jennings to an LTC, or else they've just screwed up pretty badly.

Kc61 · 12-12-2006, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Footstool

The Astros better sign Jennings to an LTC, or else they've just screwed up pretty badly.

They will and they didn't. They care about winning in the major leagues, which they usually do.

RedsManRick · 12-12-2006, 05:32 PM

Fine with me. I agree with you Johnny. If they don't ink him long term, they got the shaft.

Aronchis · 12-12-2006, 05:32 PM

Good deal for the Rockies. Should of the Reds offered Arroyo

Caveat Emperor · 12-12-2006, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kc61

They will and they didn't. They care about winning in the major leagues, which they usually do.

I get the "bird in the hand" argument, but the money is eventually going to run out in Houston -- and they'll probably overpay to keep Jennings in order to justify this trade to themselves. I don't like getting into the business of forking over big dough for #3 starters.

Just a hunch on that.

Edd Roush · 12-12-2006, 05:38 PM

So is the Reds equivalent Lizard, Bailey and Denorfia? That's a high price to pay if you only get him for one year. They better get long-term or they are in trouble. I wouldn't want to pay that much, but that could put them over the hump in the division this year. Probably hurts them long-term.

Spitball · 12-12-2006, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Footstool

The Astros better sign Jennings to an LTC, or else they've just screwed up pretty badly.

...and there better be a humidor to be named later.

danforsman · 12-12-2006, 05:59 PM

I like Jennings, especially better than Garland, but I'd be surprised if Jennings doesn't want to at least test the free agent waters at the end of 2007, in which case this could prove quite a gamble long-term for Houston.

harangatang · 12-12-2006, 06:10 PM

Carlos Beltran Part 2

VR · 12-12-2006, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitball

...and there better be a humidor to be named later.

Not sure what all the love for Jennings is....he's been absolutely mediocre at best since he was ROY. Not sure I've seen a starter with a career k/bb rate that close to 1:1. El Humidor helped him a lot last year.

PuffyPig · 12-12-2006, 06:22 PM

Even if they sign him long term, it's still essentially a one year rental as they will have to fork over FA money in any event. If Jennings has a big year, he will make a fortune.

Falls City Beer · 12-12-2006, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by VR

Not sure what all the love for Jennings is....he's been absolutely mediocre at best since he was ROY. Not sure I've seen a starter with a career k/bb rate that close to 1:1. El Humidor helped him a lot last year.

Russ Ortiz
Mike Hampton
Kirk Rueter

SirFelixCat · 12-12-2006, 06:33 PM

He and Craig Wilson were on my Christmas wish list, but that sure was a whole lot to spend. I wanna cry, but if the deal had to include Bailey, I'm good with the Reds not making it. Still stings a bit though....

VR · 12-12-2006, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Falls City Beer

Russ Ortiz
Mike Hampton
Kirk Rueter

And there you have it.

12-12-2006, 05:20 PM	#2
Johnny Footstool Churlish Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Olathe, KS Posts: 13,665	Re: Jennings to Houston The Astros better sign Jennings to an LTC, or else they've just screwed up pretty badly. __________________ "I prefer books and movies where the conflict isn't of the extreme cannibal apocalypse variety I guess." Redsfaithful

12-12-2006, 05:32 PM	#4
RedsManRick Stat Wanker Hodiernus Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 14,919	Re: Jennings to Houston Fine with me. I agree with you Johnny. If they don't ink him long term, they got the shaft. __________________ Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

12-12-2006, 05:32 PM	#5
Aronchis Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 4,673	Re: Jennings to Houston Good deal for the Rockies. Should of the Reds offered Arroyo

12-12-2006, 05:38 PM	#7
Edd Roush Two-Time Batting Champ Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Loveland, OH Posts: 2,636	Re: Jennings to Houston So is the Reds equivalent Lizard, Bailey and Denorfia? That's a high price to pay if you only get him for one year. They better get long-term or they are in trouble. I wouldn't want to pay that much, but that could put them over the hump in the division this year. Probably hurts them long-term.

12-12-2006, 05:59 PM	#9
danforsman Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 556	Re: Jennings to Houston I like Jennings, especially better than Garland, but I'd be surprised if Jennings doesn't want to at least test the free agent waters at the end of 2007, in which case this could prove quite a gamble long-term for Houston. __________________ http://htownsports.blogspot.com

12-12-2006, 06:10 PM	#10
harangatang Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,493	Re: Jennings to Houston Carlos Beltran Part 2

12-12-2006, 06:22 PM	#12
PuffyPig Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,725	Re: Jennings to Houston Even if they sign him long term, it's still essentially a one year rental as they will have to fork over FA money in any event. If Jennings has a big year, he will make a fortune.

12-12-2006, 06:33 PM	#14
SirFelixCat Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 5,673	Re: Jennings to Houston He and Craig Wilson were on my Christmas wish list, but that sure was a whole lot to spend. I wanna cry, but if the deal had to include Bailey, I'm good with the Reds not making it. Still stings a bit though....

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