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redsfan4445 · 12-14-2006, 10:40 PM

saw this on yahoo rumor page:

"On the trade front, the Los Angeles Dodgers are dangling starter Brad Penny as a spark for talk with the Cardinals.

Source: St. Louis Post-Dispatch"

this would suck for the Reds!!:thumbdown

Joseph · 12-14-2006, 10:52 PM

Depends on what the Cards have to give up to get him.

jmac · 12-14-2006, 10:58 PM

carpentar and penny would make a good twosome.
course the sound of Harang..BA...Penny sounds better !

cincyinco · 12-14-2006, 11:22 PM

Penny is a guy who is completely overrated IMO.. he has the talent, but he's oft injured and horribly inconsistent.. Check out the pre/post AS break splits.. pretty ugly. I dont know how you go from being that good to being that dreadful.

Rarely has his ERA been south of 4 when he's logged a significant amount of innings, and it hasn't been lately - even tho he's pitched in the confines of a pitchers park.

Meh, I dunno.. he's just frustratingly inconsistent IMO... I liked his upside about 5 years ago. Anyhow, for a team like the pitching starved Reds he's a welcome addition simply because we're so poor in that department.. but I fear the cost for him would be great - and I'm worried he'd get beatup in the GAB.

If he goes to St. Louis tho, Duncan will turn him into another gem I'm sure. Sigh.. What it must be like to have a good pitching coach.

What do the cards give up to get him?

Wainright? Reyes?

I'm not sure what else they have, aside from a few prospects like Rasmus.

Jpup · 12-15-2006, 04:11 AM

I don't think the Cardinals have near enough to acquire him.

Krusty · 12-15-2006, 10:14 AM

LA Times said the Dodgers are looking for a hitter that can hit 25+ home runs for Penny and possibly a young player like Either or Kemp. Doesn't seem like the Cards have that type of hitter to deal that isn't named Pujols.

Benihana · 12-15-2006, 10:26 AM

Man I wish we could send them Austin Kearns for Penny

That would have been PERFECT

Falls City Beer · 12-15-2006, 10:32 AM

I'm not the biggest Penny fan at all, but he would help add yet another shovelful of dirt to the Reds' 2007.

savafan · 12-15-2006, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krusty

LA Times said the Dodgers are looking for a hitter that can hit 25+ home runs for Penny and possibly a young player like Either or Kemp. Doesn't seem like the Cards have that type of hitter to deal that isn't named Pujols.

Chris Duncan?

RedLegSuperStar · 12-15-2006, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krusty

LA Times said the Dodgers are looking for a hitter that can hit 25+ home runs for Penny and possibly a young player like Either or Kemp. Doesn't seem like the Cards have that type of hitter to deal that isn't named Pujols.

Reds got a guy who could potentially hit 50 will they give us Penny, Ethier and a prospect?

KoryMac5 · 12-15-2006, 01:41 PM

Penny would be dangerous with the Cards especially with Dave Duncan as pitching coach. Penny is not much of a second half pitcher it may be due to conditioning or that hitters figure him out. If Weaver can be sucessful with the Redbirds Penny just might have a shot to be dominant.

RedLegSuperStar · 12-15-2006, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KoryMac5

Penny would be dangerous with the Cards especially with Dave Duncan as pitching coach. Penny is not much of a second half pitcher it may be due to conditioning or that hitters figure him out. If Weaver can be sucessful with the Redbirds Penny just might have a shot to be dominant.

I forgot about the Duncan factor..

TheWalls · 12-16-2006, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krusty

LA Times said the Dodgers are looking for a hitter that can hit 25+ home runs for Penny and possibly a young player like Either or Kemp. Doesn't seem like the Cards have that type of hitter to deal that isn't named Pujols.

I saw the same rumor. Don't the Reds make more sense here? Dunn's homers would still go out of Dodger Stadium, Ethier and Penny would be solid adds and I've got to believe we could find some kind of young talent to sweeten our side.

BEETTLEBUG · 12-16-2006, 10:04 AM

I agree Walls!

WMR · 12-16-2006, 10:12 AM

Kearns for Penny straight up

12-14-2006, 10:40 PM	#1
redsfan4445 Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Cincinnati Ohio Posts: 2,732	yahoo rumors- arg!.. LA offering Penny to Cards?? saw this on yahoo rumor page: "On the trade front, the Los Angeles Dodgers are dangling starter Brad Penny as a spark for talk with the Cardinals. Source: St. Louis Post-Dispatch" this would suck for the Reds!!:thumbdown

12-14-2006, 10:52 PM	#2
Joseph Tired of talk. Win! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,122	Re: yahoo rumors- arg!.. LA offering Penny to Cards?? Depends on what the Cards have to give up to get him. __________________ Championships for MY teams in my lifetime: Cincinnati Reds - 75, 76, 90 Chicago Blackhawks - 10 University of Kentucky - 78, 96, 98, 12 Cincinnati Bengals - None Chicago Bulls - 91, 92, 93, 96, 97, 98

12-14-2006, 10:58 PM	#3
jmac part of BBN Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,297	Re: yahoo rumors- arg!.. LA offering Penny to Cards?? carpentar and penny would make a good twosome. course the sound of Harang..BA...Penny sounds better !

12-14-2006, 11:22 PM	#4
cincyinco We are the angry mob Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: The 303 Posts: 2,479	Re: yahoo rumors- arg!.. LA offering Penny to Cards?? Penny is a guy who is completely overrated IMO.. he has the talent, but he's oft injured and horribly inconsistent.. Check out the pre/post AS break splits.. pretty ugly. I dont know how you go from being that good to being that dreadful. Rarely has his ERA been south of 4 when he's logged a significant amount of innings, and it hasn't been lately - even tho he's pitched in the confines of a pitchers park. Meh, I dunno.. he's just frustratingly inconsistent IMO... I liked his upside about 5 years ago. Anyhow, for a team like the pitching starved Reds he's a welcome addition simply because we're so poor in that department.. but I fear the cost for him would be great - and I'm worried he'd get beatup in the GAB. If he goes to St. Louis tho, Duncan will turn him into another gem I'm sure. Sigh.. What it must be like to have a good pitching coach. What do the cards give up to get him? Wainright? Reyes? I'm not sure what else they have, aside from a few prospects like Rasmus. __________________ "I hate to advocate chemicals, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone... But they've always worked for me." -Hunter S. Thompson

12-15-2006, 04:11 AM	#5
Jpup Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern KY Posts: 6,967	Re: yahoo rumors- arg!.. LA offering Penny to Cards?? I don't think the Cardinals have near enough to acquire him. __________________ "My mission is to be the ray of hope, the guy who stands out there on that beautiful field and owns up to his mistakes and lets people know it's never completely hopeless, no matter how bad it seems at the time. I have a platform and a message, and now I go to bed at night, sober and happy, praying I can be a good messenger." -Josh Hamilton

12-15-2006, 10:14 AM	#6
Krusty Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Williamsport, PA Posts: 12,311	Re: yahoo rumors- arg!.. LA offering Penny to Cards?? LA Times said the Dodgers are looking for a hitter that can hit 25+ home runs for Penny and possibly a young player like Either or Kemp. Doesn't seem like the Cards have that type of hitter to deal that isn't named Pujols. __________________ If you think small, you'll go nowhere in life.

12-15-2006, 10:26 AM	#7
Benihana Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 8,417	Re: yahoo rumors- arg!.. LA offering Penny to Cards?? Man I wish we could send them Austin Kearns for Penny That would have been PERFECT __________________ Go BLUE!!!

12-15-2006, 10:32 AM	#8
Falls City Beer Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 24,098	Re: yahoo rumors- arg!.. LA offering Penny to Cards?? I'm not the biggest Penny fan at all, but he would help add yet another shovelful of dirt to the Reds' 2007.

12-15-2006, 01:41 PM	#11
KoryMac5 Kmac5 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Waterloo, NY Posts: 3,661	Re: yahoo rumors- arg!.. LA offering Penny to Cards?? Penny would be dangerous with the Cards especially with Dave Duncan as pitching coach. Penny is not much of a second half pitcher it may be due to conditioning or that hitters figure him out. If Weaver can be sucessful with the Redbirds Penny just might have a shot to be dominant.

12-16-2006, 10:04 AM	#14
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