RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion  

Go Back   RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion > Miscellaneous > Non-Sports Chatter

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-20-2006, 01:30 AM   #1
Wheelhouse
Member
 
Wheelhouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: New York
Posts: 2,849
Thoughts on some language...

I've been driven nuts by the name of Dayton's ball field, "Fifth Third Field." OK: is it fifth OR third? And fifth or third what? Street? Avenue? Banana? Is it at the intersection of fifth and third? If so then the name should be "Fifth and Third Field." It would cue out-of-towners that that's what it is. And talk about an unsexy name for a venue: two numerical descriptions of something unknown.

It reminds me of "Ruth's Chris Steakhouse." Is "Chris" a kind of steak or steakhouse? Or does Ruth own Chris? I think the name was created just to get the attention of someone like me. First time I saw one, a had to pull over and muse on the nonsensical name.

It truly is the offseason.
__________________
"Don't trust any statistics you did not fake yourself."--Winston Churchill
Wheelhouse is offline   Reply With Quote
Turn Off Ads?
Old 12-20-2006, 01:33 AM   #2
Edd Roush
Two-Time Batting Champ
 
Edd Roush's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Loveland, OH
Posts: 2,627
Re: Thoughts on some language...

Fifth Third is a local bank in the Cincinnati-Dayton Area. I can understand the confusion of an out-of-towner such as yourself, but I would hope that most residents of Dayton and people attending the Dragons' games would understand the Fifth Third thing.
Edd Roush is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2006, 01:35 AM   #3
Wheelhouse
Member
 
Wheelhouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: New York
Posts: 2,849
Re: Thoughts on some language...

Understood--but the question remains: why did the bank name itself that? What is being referred to?
__________________
"Don't trust any statistics you did not fake yourself."--Winston Churchill
Wheelhouse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2006, 01:35 AM   #4
missionhockey21
Damn That Dunn
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Ohio
Posts: 1,632
Re: Thoughts on some language...


That might answer a question or two.
missionhockey21 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2006, 01:36 AM   #5
missionhockey21
Damn That Dunn
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Ohio
Posts: 1,632
Re: Thoughts on some language...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wheelhouse View Post
Understood--but the question remains: why did the bank name itself that? What is being referred to?
Wikipedia knows all (usually.)

Quote:
Fifth Third's unusual name is the result of the June 1, 1908 merger of two banks, The Fifth National Bank and The Third National Bank, to become The Fifth Third National Bank of Cincinnati.[3] Because the merger took place during a period when prohibitionist ideas were gaining popularity, it was believed that "Fifth Third" was better than "Third Fifth," which could be construed as a reference to "three fifths" of alcohol.[4] The name went through several changes over the years, until on March 24, 1969, the name was changed to Fifth Third Bank. [3]
missionhockey21 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2006, 01:38 AM   #6
Wheelhouse
Member
 
Wheelhouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: New York
Posts: 2,849
Re: Thoughts on some language...

Thanks! But no "and" in the name--I guess we dont have time for conjunctions in our society...
__________________
"Don't trust any statistics you did not fake yourself."--Winston Churchill
Wheelhouse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2006, 05:30 AM   #7
redsmetz
Redsmetz
 
redsmetz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Winton Place
Posts: 10,449
Re: Thoughts on some language...

Quote:
Wikipedia knows all (usually.)

Quote:
Fifth Third's unusual name is the result of the June 1, 1908 merger of two banks, The Fifth National Bank and The Third National Bank, to become The Fifth Third National Bank of Cincinnati.[3] Because the merger took place during a period when prohibitionist ideas were gaining popularity, it was believed that "Fifth Third" was better than "Third Fifth," which could be construed as a reference to "three fifths" of alcohol.[4] The name went through several changes over the years, until on March 24, 1969, the name was changed to Fifth Third Bank. [3]
That reminds me of the old Bob & Ray sketch of someone interviewing the old-time newspaper guy who worked for the something like the Minneapolis News Herald Star Tribune Gazette (or some such long paper name". The interviewer after hearing it replied, "Oh yeah, that was a big merger".
redsmetz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2006, 07:28 AM   #8
Roy Tucker
Be the ball
 
Roy Tucker's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Mason, OH
Posts: 11,111
Re: Thoughts on some language...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wheelhouse View Post
It reminds me of "Ruth's Chris Steakhouse." Is "Chris" a kind of steak or steakhouse? Or does Ruth own Chris? I think the name was created just to get the attention of someone like me. First time I saw one, a had to pull over and muse on the nonsensical name.
Again, Wiki knows all...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruth's_Chris_Steakhouse

The chain was founded by Ruth Fertel, a single mother of two, in 1965, after she bought the existing Chris Steak House in New Orleans. In buying the restaurant, Fertel had to agree that the restaurant keep the "Chris" name for a specified period of time. After the original location sustained a kitchen fire, she relocated the restaurant about 1/2 mile (1 km) to the west on Broad Street and renamed the rebuilt establishment "Ruth's Chris" (under her purchase agreement, the name Chris Steak House could not be used at any other location, and she did not want to lose customers already familiar with the Chris name).

Fertel started to franchise the restaurant in the 1970s. By the time Fertel was legally allowed to take Chris out of the name, the chain (and its unique name) had become famous in many places across the country, and she therefore decided to keep the name.
__________________

"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit."
Roy Tucker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2006, 09:34 AM   #9
SunDeck
First Time Caller
 
SunDeck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 5,224
Re: Thoughts on some language...

Just how far from out of town are people travelling? 5/3 is not some corner Building and Loan- it's at least well enough known in the region.
__________________
Dusty Baker, second shooter. --Confirmed on Redszone.
SunDeck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2006, 09:41 AM   #10
dabvu2498
Yay!
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Middletown, Ohio
Posts: 7,260
Re: Thoughts on some language...

Quote:
Originally Posted by SunDeck View Post
Just how far from out of town are people travelling? 5/3 is not some corner Building and Loan- it's at least well enough known in the region.
Quote:
Today, Fifth Third operates 19 affiliates with over 1,100 full-service locations primarily in the Midwest and Florida. Fifth Third is located in these states:


https://www.53.com/wps/portal/!ut/p/...ions+We+Serve/
__________________
When all is said and done more is said than done.
dabvu2498 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2006, 09:42 AM   #11
Heath
This one's for you Edd
 
Heath's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Dayton Area
Posts: 8,471
Re: Thoughts on some language...

Johnny Bench used to tell me growing up that Fifth/Third Bank was the only bank I'd ever need.

So, far he's right. I've had a 5/3 checking account since college.
__________________
Some people play baseball. Baseball plays Jay Bruce.
Heath is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2006, 10:31 AM   #12
TOBTTReds
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Cincinnati
Posts: 3,666
Re: Thoughts on some language...

How many other 5/3 fields are there? I'm pretty sure Toledo is 5/3 also.
TOBTTReds is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2006, 10:42 AM   #13
Wheelhouse
Member
 
Wheelhouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: New York
Posts: 2,849
Re: Thoughts on some language...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Roy Tucker View Post
Again, Wiki knows all...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruth's_Chris_Steakhouse

The chain was founded by Ruth Fertel, a single mother of two, in 1965, after she bought the existing Chris Steak House in New Orleans. In buying the restaurant, Fertel had to agree that the restaurant keep the "Chris" name for a specified period of time. After the original location sustained a kitchen fire, she relocated the restaurant about 1/2 mile (1 km) to the west on Broad Street and renamed the rebuilt establishment "Ruth's Chris" (under her purchase agreement, the name Chris Steak House could not be used at any other location, and she did not want to lose customers already familiar with the Chris name).

Fertel started to franchise the restaurant in the 1970s. By the time Fertel was legally allowed to take Chris out of the name, the chain (and its unique name) had become famous in many places across the country, and she therefore decided to keep the name.
I don't mean to be contrarian but I've got two issues with Wiki here:

1) Wouldn't the original name have been Chris' (as opposed to just Chris) Steakhouse with Chris being in the possessive? It's like saying Fred Diner or Macy Department Store. We again arrive at the question as to whether "Chris" is a kind of steak. If this is just an issue of Bayou illiteracy, they need to get some learnin'.

2) I have never heard of a selling party insisting that the buyer keep a name. I've heard of a seller insisting that a name not be used, as the seller might use it in business at another time, or to protect reputation, etc.. But why would a party who has no interest in a business care what name another owner uses?

Fishy.
__________________
"Don't trust any statistics you did not fake yourself."--Winston Churchill
Wheelhouse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2006, 10:46 AM   #14
Wheelhouse
Member
 
Wheelhouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: New York
Posts: 2,849
Re: Thoughts on some language...

Also, I intend to open a trading firm called Second Sixteenth--I hope that name engenders financial confidence and that you all will do business with us. PM me if you want to transfer your securities.
__________________
"Don't trust any statistics you did not fake yourself."--Winston Churchill

Last edited by Wheelhouse; 12-20-2006 at 10:54 AM.
Wheelhouse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2006, 10:51 AM   #15
Danny Serafini
15 game winner
 
Danny Serafini's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Sultanes de Monterrey
Posts: 4,172
Re: Thoughts on some language...

Quote:
Originally Posted by AvesIce51 View Post
How many other 5/3 fields are there? I'm pretty sure Toledo is 5/3 also.
It is. West Michigan, the Tigers low A club, also plays in 5/3. On a side rant, 5/3's customer service really has gone to crap over the past 5 years or so. I finally got fed up and switched banks a year or two ago it's gotten so bad.
Danny Serafini is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:52 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

Board Moderators may, at their discretion and judgment, delete and/or edit any messages that violate any of the following guidelines: 1. Explicit references to alleged illegal or unlawful acts. 2. Graphic sexual descriptions. 3. Racial or ethnic slurs. 4. Use of edgy language (including masked profanity). 5. Direct personal attacks, flames, fights, trolling, baiting, name-calling, general nuisance, excessive player criticism or anything along those lines. 6. Posting spam. 7. Each person may have only one user account. It is fine to be critical here - that's what this board is for. But let's not beat a subject or a player to death, please.

Thank you, and most importantly, enjoy yourselves!

RedsZone.com is a privately owned website and is not affiliated with the Cincinnati Reds or Major League Baseball

Contact us: Boss | GIK | dabvu2498 | GADawg | Gallen5862 | LexRedsFan | mattfeet | MBZags | Plus Plus | redsfan1995 | The Operator | Tommyjohn25