Who is RedsZone's #3 Prospect? - RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion

chicoruiz · 12-28-2006, 06:15 PM

So far, two landslides:

1. Homer Bailey
2. Jay Bruce

Adding a few names to the list here.

Notes on a few players:

I've seen Chris Denorfia on a few prospect lists, but I'm not planning on including him here.

Norris Hopper, Miguel Perez and Bobby Livingston, on the other hand, have had such brief cups of coffee that I'm inclined to include them if that's OK. Good news for all you Miguel Perez fans...

I am unsure of the status of Brendan Harris. Is he currently Reds property?

dougdirt · 12-28-2006, 06:21 PM

Few things
1. Its Janish, not Janisch
2. Put up the previous vote winners in the original post.

I voted Joey Votto. In my mind, he is the clear cut #3 prospect the Reds have.

Gallen5862 · 12-28-2006, 06:22 PM

I voted Joey Votto for number 3 prospect.

chicoruiz · 12-28-2006, 06:25 PM

Quote:

1. Its Janish, not Janisch
2. Put up the previous vote winners in the original post

1. Will fix in subsequent polls. Danger in doing this stuff from memory. Must remember to double-check.

2. Fixed.

RedsManRick · 12-28-2006, 06:31 PM

I voted Votto. Not the highest ceiling, but guys who have proven themselves in AA aren't exactly common around here. The 24 steals at a 75% success rate are merely icing on the cake.

BTW, I love the thread series! You might want to post the criteria for naming a winner as well. First player to X votes with X% -- if not, runoff, etc.

Danny Serafini · 12-28-2006, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chicoruiz

I am unsure of the status of Brendan Harris. Is he currently Reds property?

Harris is in DFA pergatory right now, it'll be a few days before that question can be answered.

mth123 · 12-28-2006, 07:11 PM

Votto IMO is the best bet of all the prospects.

1. Pitchers are iffy (but I voted Homer #1)
2. Its a long way from low A to the majors and the biggest jump is to AA.

I voted Votto 2 earlier and would have taken Bruce here, so I vote Votto.

Scrap Irony · 12-28-2006, 07:13 PM

I voted Cueto. Votto is a solid prospect, but his ceiling is limited. An 850 OPS at 1B, while solid and certainly above Cincinnati's nominal standards, is, in the grand scheme of all things major league, ho hum.

Cueto's ceiling is much, much higher. His fastball is electric and his secondary pitches are above average. 20 years old, he's put up a 15-3 season, with an ERA of 3.00 and more K's than IP. Too, he averaged only one baserunner per inning and held opponents to a .202 BA.

Sure, he has a couple concerns. He's small-framed and this is his first really good season, but those numbers scream for comparisons to Oswalt and Martinez (not that he's in their league yet), other small-framed pitchers who know a couple things around the mound.

NDRed · 12-28-2006, 07:14 PM

I voted Votto for the number 2 prospect but i guess he can be number 3.

Will M · 12-28-2006, 08:33 PM

Bailey, Bruce & Votto are the top 3 no matter how you rank them.

After that it gets more interesting. It seems we have some good other prospects but they are a long way from the big leagues.

paintmered · 12-28-2006, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dougdirt

Few things
1. Its Janish, not Janisch

Fixed.

jmcclain19 · 12-28-2006, 09:02 PM

Votto is my No. 2...but as is...I'll vote him No. 3 because after him, there is a whole lot of empty space in the Reds system.

Falls City Beer · 12-28-2006, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmcclain19

.I'll vote him No. 3 because after him, there is a whole lot of empty space in the Reds system.

And that's being nice.

dougdirt · 12-28-2006, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrap Irony

I voted Cueto. Votto is a solid prospect, but his ceiling is limited. An 850 OPS at 1B, while solid and certainly above Cincinnati's nominal standards, is, in the grand scheme of all things major league, ho hum.

Cueto's ceiling is much, much higher. His fastball is electric and his secondary pitches are above average. 20 years old, he's put up a 15-3 season, with an ERA of 3.00 and more K's than IP. Too, he averaged only one baserunner per inning and held opponents to a .202 BA.

Sure, he has a couple concerns. He's small-framed and this is his first really good season, but those numbers scream for comparisons to Oswalt and Martinez (not that he's in their league yet), other small-framed pitchers who know a couple things around the mound.

What makes you think Votto will put up an .850 OPS? His OPS in AA was .957, and was 80 points higher than the next closest guy in his entire league. Not that I am argueing Cueto being a lesser prospect, but what gives the impression that Votto has a limited cieling of n .850 OPS?

reds44 · 12-28-2006, 09:26 PM

I voted Cueto. Dude has some sick stuff. I could argue he has a better all round arsenal of pitches then Homer. Votto is going to win the poll, but I would take Cueto over him.

View Poll Results: Who is RedsZone's #3 prospect?
Johnny Cueto	12	11.43%
Josh Hamilton	4	3.81%
Paul Janish	0	0%
Milton Loo	0	0%
Drew Stubbs	2	1.90%
Chris Valaika	1	0.95%
Joey Votto	80	76.19%
Sean Watson	1	0.95%
Travis Wood	5	4.76%
Voters: 105. You may not vote on this poll

12-28-2006, 06:21 PM	#2
dougdirt The Boss Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 30,677	Re: Who is RedsZone's #3 Prospect? Few things 1. Its Janish, not Janisch 2. Put up the previous vote winners in the original post. I voted Joey Votto. In my mind, he is the clear cut #3 prospect the Reds have. __________________ www.redsminorleagues.com

12-28-2006, 06:31 PM	#5
RedsManRick Stat Wanker Hodiernus Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 14,914	Re: Who is RedsZone's #3 Prospect? I voted Votto. Not the highest ceiling, but guys who have proven themselves in AA aren't exactly common around here. The 24 steals at a 75% success rate are merely icing on the cake. BTW, I love the thread series! You might want to post the criteria for naming a winner as well. First player to X votes with X% -- if not, runoff, etc. __________________ Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

12-28-2006, 07:11 PM	#7
mth123 The Big Dog Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,679	Re: Who is RedsZone's #3 Prospect? Votto IMO is the best bet of all the prospects. 1. Pitchers are iffy (but I voted Homer #1) 2. Its a long way from low A to the majors and the biggest jump is to AA. I voted Votto 2 earlier and would have taken Bruce here, so I vote Votto.

12-28-2006, 07:13 PM	#8
Scrap Irony Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Bedford, KY Posts: 8,992	Re: Who is RedsZone's #3 Prospect? I voted Cueto. Votto is a solid prospect, but his ceiling is limited. An 850 OPS at 1B, while solid and certainly above Cincinnati's nominal standards, is, in the grand scheme of all things major league, ho hum. Cueto's ceiling is much, much higher. His fastball is electric and his secondary pitches are above average. 20 years old, he's put up a 15-3 season, with an ERA of 3.00 and more K's than IP. Too, he averaged only one baserunner per inning and held opponents to a .202 BA. Sure, he has a couple concerns. He's small-framed and this is his first really good season, but those numbers scream for comparisons to Oswalt and Martinez (not that he's in their league yet), other small-framed pitchers who know a couple things around the mound.

12-28-2006, 06:15 PM	#1
chicoruiz Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 1,662	Who is RedsZone's #3 Prospect? So far, two landslides: 1. Homer Bailey 2. Jay Bruce Adding a few names to the list here. Notes on a few players: I've seen Chris Denorfia on a few prospect lists, but I'm not planning on including him here. Norris Hopper, Miguel Perez and Bobby Livingston, on the other hand, have had such brief cups of coffee that I'm inclined to include them if that's OK. Good news for all you Miguel Perez fans... I am unsure of the status of Brendan Harris. Is he currently Reds property? __________________ "In baseball, you don't know nothin'"...Yogi Berra Last edited by chicoruiz; 12-28-2006 at 06:23 PM.

12-28-2006, 06:22 PM	#3
Gallen5862 Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Wilmington,NC Posts: 5,323	Re: Who is RedsZone's #3 Prospect? I voted Joey Votto for number 3 prospect.

12-28-2006, 07:14 PM	#9
NDRed Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Fargo, ND Posts: 1,271	Re: Who is RedsZone's #3 Prospect? I voted Votto for the number 2 prospect but i guess he can be number 3.

12-28-2006, 08:33 PM	#10
Will M Brett William Moore Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Crescent Springs KY Posts: 3,511	Re: Who is RedsZone's #3 Prospect? Bailey, Bruce & Votto are the top 3 no matter how you rank them. After that it gets more interesting. It seems we have some good other prospects but they are a long way from the big leagues. __________________ .

12-28-2006, 09:02 PM	#12
jmcclain19 Smells Like Teen Spirit Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Phoenix Posts: 6,486	Re: Who is RedsZone's #3 Prospect? Votto is my No. 2...but as is...I'll vote him No. 3 because after him, there is a whole lot of empty space in the Reds system.

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