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View Poll Results: Who is RedsZone's #8 prospect?
Jared Burton 0 0%
Jon Coutlangus 0 0%
Chris Dickerson 0 0%
Danny Dorn 0 0%
Phil Dumatrait 1 0.95%
Carlos Fisher 1 0.95%
Richie Gardner 0 0%
Jerry Gil 0 0%
Carlos Guevara 1 0.95%
Josh Hamilton 21 20.00%
Norris Hopper 0 0%
Paul Janish 3 2.86%
Sam LeCure 36 34.29%
Bobby Livingston 0 0%
Milton Loo 18 17.14%
Derek Lutz 0 0%
Calvin Medlock 2 1.90%
Wirfin Obispo 1 0.95%
Logan Parker 0 0%
Tyler Pelland 3 2.86%
Josh Ravin 2 1.90%
Adam Rosales 0 0%
Brad Salmon 2 1.90%
David Shafer 4 3.81%
Cody Strait 1 0.95%
B.J. Szymanski 1 0.95%
Craig Tatum 0 0%
Daryl Thompson 1 0.95%
Justin Turner 1 0.95%
Sean Watson 6 5.71%
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Old 01-06-2007, 03:37 PM   #1
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Who Is RedsZones's #8 Prospect?

1. Homer Bailey
2. Jay Bruce
3. Joey Votto
4. Johnny Cueto
5. Travis Wood
6. Drew Stubbs
7. Chris Valaika
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Old 01-06-2007, 04:44 PM   #2
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Re: Who Is RedsZones's #8 Prospect?

I went with Milton Loo, lots of upside with him....took him over Lecure, but barely.
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Old 01-06-2007, 06:21 PM   #3
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Re: Who Is RedsZones's #8 Prospect?

I went with Lecure.... Dont know if i consider Hamilton a prospect so i probably wont vote for him at all. But i cant wait to see #9 and #10 prospects.....it should be very interesting.

We have an awsome 1-3 prospects but I dont think 4-7 are as terrible as people are saying. I think our problem is depth after the top 10.
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Old 01-06-2007, 06:56 PM   #4
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Re: Who Is RedsZones's #8 Prospect?

I went with Hamilton. Impossible to evaluate whether he has or can overcome personal issues. But at this point, I couldn't find another prospect about whom I feel comfortable as a top ten guy.

Loo has absolutely no track record in pro ball so I have a little problem going for him just yet.
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Old 01-06-2007, 07:10 PM   #5
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Re: Who Is RedsZones's #8 Prospect?

I voted for LeCure, but the vast range of prospects I could vote for at this point is growing wide as I took a hard look at Milton Loo and David Shafer. As of right now, I'll most likely round out my top 10 with both Loo and Shafer.
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Old 01-06-2007, 07:26 PM   #6
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Re: Who Is RedsZones's #8 Prospect?

I voted for Tyler Pelland - he has a major league arm that can hit the mid-90s. He showed promise as a starter this year, but didn't totally convince me. But I do believe this year will be the one where the Reds decide if his development is as a reliever or as a starter. I like Lecure for the top 10, because of his polish, but he has hasn't hit AA yet. He is a good competitor, and he approaches pitching with a plan but his arm is average, not special, and his stuff was average at high A - not cause for optimism.
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Old 01-06-2007, 09:37 PM   #7
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Re: Who Is RedsZones's #8 Prospect?

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I went with Lecure.... Dont know if i consider Hamilton a prospect so i probably wont vote for him at all. But i cant wait to see #9 and #10 prospects.....it should be very interesting.

We have an awsome 1-3 prospects but I dont think 4-7 are as terrible as people are saying. I think our problem is depth after the top 10.
Look at this scenario:

Each year the Reds add a pitcher to the major league club.
This pitcher is the #5 starter or middle relief.
He develops into a #3 or better starter or a set up guy/closer.

Each year the Reds start one rookie who hits 7th.
He develops into an every day major league player who then moves up in the batting order.

Once every 3 years one of these players develops into a guy who makes multiple all star teams in his career.

This would be an AWESOME minor league system and yet produce only 2 players a year.

I think having a handful of quality minor league players beats an army of generic 'prospects'.
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Old 01-06-2007, 09:39 PM   #8
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Re: Who Is RedsZones's #8 Prospect?

I think LeCure's ceiling is as a fourth starter. For Hamilton, I think having only 361 at-bats since the beginning of 2001 will be too much to overcome. I don't think Pelland will ever put it together. I think Milton Loo has the total package.
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Old 01-06-2007, 10:12 PM   #9
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Re: Who Is RedsZones's #8 Prospect?

I voted for Lecure. I like it that there are several prospects that are all worthy.
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Old 01-06-2007, 11:17 PM   #10
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Re: Who Is RedsZones's #8 Prospect?

Pelland -- good arm, lefthanded, survived as a starter at 22/23 in AA. Should be able to help out of the pen at least.
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Old 01-06-2007, 11:26 PM   #11
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Re: Who Is RedsZones's #8 Prospect?

Going Shafer again. Not the highest ceiling, but the rest of the guys are just too far off to project above a guy who was dominant in AA.
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Old 01-06-2007, 11:38 PM   #12
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Going Shafer again. Not the highest ceiling, but the rest of the guys are just too far off to project above a guy who was dominant in AA.
I went Lecure because he is a starter but Shafer and Coutlangus will be my next two choices for the same reasons as yours. I also think the decent Middle Relievers have more chance to contribute in a key role than a position player who may end up as nothing more than a utility guy.
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Old 01-07-2007, 12:42 AM   #13
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Re: Who Is RedsZones's #8 Prospect?

Lecure once again. I'm not a big Loo fan. He's got speed and great contact ability, but it sounds like he's got "Javon Moran" disease. Almost all of his OBP comes from hits and his power isn't all that great. You have to hit like crap to be an effective offensive player with a style like that. If he's able to bat .320 per year, great, but it's tough to call that when he's hardly had any professional experience.

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Old 01-07-2007, 01:12 AM   #14
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Re: Who Is RedsZones's #8 Prospect?

I've been taking Hamilton with the past couple of picks. He may wind up amounting to absolutely nothing, but his ceiling to me is higher than the rest of the list so I'll go with him. If I was taking a regular minor leaguer I'd go with LeCure right now.
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Old 01-07-2007, 08:07 PM   #15
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Re: Who Is RedsZones's #8 Prospect?

I voted for Janish. He's getting better on offense and his defense is exceptional. I wish he were a little younger of course.

I think Loo will make a big jump in 2007. I wouldn't read too much into last year.
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