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redsmetz · 01-10-2007, 01:34 PM

I glanced at the Transactions for today and notice among the list of non-roster Spring Training invitees for the Tigers is none other than Dane Sardinha. He'll be joining David Espinosa in the Tigers system.

As I recall, Bowden did something with both of them in signing them that put them on the 40 man roster earlier than they would have (something similiar to what the Yankees did with Wily Mo, IIRC).

Am I remembering that correctly?

joe

Danny Serafini · 01-10-2007, 01:37 PM

That's it. Didn't work out all that well.

noskill27 · 01-10-2007, 01:41 PM

Yep, he signed them to major league contracts. I said at the time that it's hard enough having one of those contracts in the minors let alone two in the same draft....then Bowden traded for another one in Wily Mo Pena... Is it any surprise why our farm system is what it is?

redsfanfalcon · 01-10-2007, 02:27 PM

I saw Espinosa play for Toledo.

Tom Servo · 01-10-2007, 03:10 PM

As others have pointed out, JimBo and DanO gave us gifts that just keep on giving.

redsupport · 01-10-2007, 03:33 PM

yes but the Reds once got Sheldon Burnside from the Tigers. he was key

marcshoe · 01-10-2007, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by redsupport

yes but the Reds once got Sheldon Burnside from the Tigers. he was key

That's what they told us, but his gaffes at Anteitam and Fredricksburg (particularly at Marye's Heights) were disasterous.

Highlifeman21 · 01-10-2007, 05:32 PM

After the Ammy Draft this year, I will then pass full judgment on Wayne Krivsky.

Selecting Stubbs was a little suspect for 2006, but if Wayne doesn't address a team need, or doesn't select the best available player when we're up in 2007, then I just can't rally behind him as our GM.

JimBo certainly wasn't good when drafting players outside of Dunn and Kearns, and DanO's only semi claim to fame will be Homer Bailey. Hopefully Krivsky will reverse that trend.

marcshoe · 01-10-2007, 05:55 PM

Not a fan of Bruce or Votto?

Highlifeman21 · 01-10-2007, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by tixe

Not a fan of Bruce or Votto?

I think Votto is overrated compared to the hype, and I really can't form an opinion about Bruce until he's had a full season at AA or AAA.

Superdude · 01-13-2007, 12:08 AM

I thought Bowden picked Votto? Wasn't '04 Dan O's first draft?

bradmu · 01-13-2007, 02:29 AM

We can't really give a final grade for Dan-o's drafts just yet, but from the way things are shaping up, his few years here actually turned out some very solid draft picks. You start with Bruce and Bailey. as well, there are quite a few other guys drafted after them who are very promissing.

Reds Nd2 · 01-13-2007, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by noskill27

....then Bowden traded for another one in Wily Mo Pena...

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Originally Posted by Tom Servo

As others have pointed out, JimBo and DanO gave us gifts that just keep on giving.

Willy Mo Peña begat depth in the outfield. Depth in the outfield begat Bronson Arroyo.

redsmetz · 01-13-2007, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Superdude

I thought Bowden picked Votto? Wasn't '04 Dan O's first draft?

Yes, that would be correct. Votto was drafted in '03 and Bowden et al were fired in July of '03. Nice catch.

01-10-2007, 01:34 PM	#1
redsmetz Redsmetz Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Winton Place Posts: 10,453	Reds Top 2 Draft Picks from 2000 Now With Detroit I glanced at the Transactions for today and notice among the list of non-roster Spring Training invitees for the Tigers is none other than Dane Sardinha. He'll be joining David Espinosa in the Tigers system. As I recall, Bowden did something with both of them in signing them that put them on the 40 man roster earlier than they would have (something similiar to what the Yankees did with Wily Mo, IIRC). Am I remembering that correctly? joe

01-10-2007, 01:37 PM	#2
Danny Serafini 15 game winner Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sultanes de Monterrey Posts: 4,172	Re: Reds Top 2 Draft Picks from 2000 Now With Detroit That's it. Didn't work out all that well.

01-10-2007, 01:41 PM	#3
noskill27 Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 85	Re: Reds Top 2 Draft Picks from 2000 Now With Detroit Yep, he signed them to major league contracts. I said at the time that it's hard enough having one of those contracts in the minors let alone two in the same draft....then Bowden traded for another one in Wily Mo Pena... Is it any surprise why our farm system is what it is? __________________ Morrison Hotel Annex

01-10-2007, 02:27 PM	#4
redsfanfalcon Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 508	Re: Reds Top 2 Draft Picks from 2000 Now With Detroit I saw Espinosa play for Toledo.

01-10-2007, 03:10 PM	#5
Tom Servo thirsty and miserable Join Date: May 2006 Location: NJ/NY Posts: 5,411	Re: Reds Top 2 Draft Picks from 2000 Now With Detroit As others have pointed out, JimBo and DanO gave us gifts that just keep on giving. __________________ "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

01-10-2007, 03:33 PM	#6
redsupport Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,783	Re: Reds Top 2 Draft Picks from 2000 Now With Detroit yes but the Reds once got Sheldon Burnside from the Tigers. he was key

01-10-2007, 05:32 PM	#8
Highlifeman21 Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bristol, just around the corner from ESPN Posts: 8,694	Re: Reds Top 2 Draft Picks from 2000 Now With Detroit After the Ammy Draft this year, I will then pass full judgment on Wayne Krivsky. Selecting Stubbs was a little suspect for 2006, but if Wayne doesn't address a team need, or doesn't select the best available player when we're up in 2007, then I just can't rally behind him as our GM. JimBo certainly wasn't good when drafting players outside of Dunn and Kearns, and DanO's only semi claim to fame will be Homer Bailey. Hopefully Krivsky will reverse that trend.

01-10-2007, 05:55 PM	#9
marcshoe Ex-tixe Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Just past Mars Posts: 4,470	Re: Reds Top 2 Draft Picks from 2000 Now With Detroit Not a fan of Bruce or Votto?

01-13-2007, 12:08 AM	#11
Superdude Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,431	Re: Reds Top 2 Draft Picks from 2000 Now With Detroit I thought Bowden picked Votto? Wasn't '04 Dan O's first draft?

01-13-2007, 02:29 AM	#12
bradmu Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 117	Re: Reds Top 2 Draft Picks from 2000 Now With Detroit We can't really give a final grade for Dan-o's drafts just yet, but from the way things are shaping up, his few years here actually turned out some very solid draft picks. You start with Bruce and Bailey. as well, there are quite a few other guys drafted after them who are very promissing. __________________ Hey Marty, This is Adam from Milwaukee...

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