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Old 02-08-2007, 11:14 AM   #16
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Re: Bronson Arroyo agrees to two-year contract extension

I'll have A1 with my crow.



I must admit that this shocks me, that I was wrong, and that I like it!
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Outstanding move.

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Old 02-08-2007, 11:15 AM   #18
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Wow...that's a shocker.
I'll second that!
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I guess Bronson was mostly hot air when discussing his love of Boston and big city life.
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Old 02-08-2007, 11:15 AM   #21
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Per John Fay. Cyclone's numbers are pretty much right.

Two days after signing their No. 1 starter through at least 2010, the Reds made the same move with No. 1A. Right-hander Bronson Arroyo agreed to a two-year extension Thursday with an option for 2011.

That means Arroyo and Aaron Harang will be in the rotation for at least the next four years.

The new deal pushes Arroyo's deal to $33.07 million, including the buyout. It pledged $25 million in new money. The deal is an extension of the three-year deal Arroyo signed with Boston Jan. 19 of last year. It was to pay him $3.8 million this season
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Hard to argue with $33Million over 4 years.
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Old 02-08-2007, 11:16 AM   #22
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That's what I am scared of. That's a lot of money...and probably too much.
What exactly would be 'too much' money for Bronson? If he gets $12 mill for two more years, that would put him at around, what, $30 million for next four when you add it to his current deal? That doesn't sound bad to me at all. I would imagine the deal works out so that he gets paid around the same total that Harang got...
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Old 02-08-2007, 11:16 AM   #23
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Wow, didn't see this one coming. Glad to see we are getting rid of the going back to Boston talk though.
Ha! With the snowfall and cold weather this week, he probably thought it was Boston. And maybe Bob's promising to go back to calling us the Red Stockings or Redlegs just to make him feel more at home. Maybe he'll hang a new sign in from of Music Hall that says Faneuil Hall!
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Re: Bronson Arroyo agrees to two-year contract extension

I don't think those numbers are bad at all when you consider what other teams are paying FA pitchers this offseason.

I'm pumped!
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Old 02-08-2007, 11:21 AM   #25
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Buying F.A. years is a lot more expensive than buying arbitration years. I'm expecting $12-15M per in those two years.
My guess is they sweetened the next two years in which he was underpaid probably through a signing bonus, rather than commiting to huge salaries in the two extended years. Krivsky probably used the principles the NFL uses when they extend young players a year before they're eligible for free agency. Usually these guys are coming off a contract that pays them the league minimum and the carrot that gets their signature is the chance to greatly increase their league minimum year, not necessarily future years
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Re: Bronson Arroyo agrees to two-year contract extension

I never thought I'd say this, but I hope the Reds start targeting position players in trades, drafts, and free agency in the next 1-2 years.

That doesn't mean that if a stud pitcher falls to them in the draft that I don't want them to draft him, it just means that it'd be nice to get an influx of solid bats into the system to go with the pitching we'll now have for 4 more years.
We need another RH power bat for starters.
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Re: Bronson Arroyo agrees to two-year contract extension

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Per John Fay. Cyclone's numbers are pretty much right.

Two days after signing their No. 1 starter through at least 2010, the Reds made the same move with No. 1A. Right-hander Bronson Arroyo agreed to a two-year extension Thursday with an option for 2011.

That means Arroyo and Aaron Harang will be in the rotation for at least the next four years.

The new deal pushes Arroyo's deal to $33.07 million, including the buyout. It pledged $25 million in new money. The deal is an extension of the three-year deal Arroyo signed with Boston Jan. 19 of last year. It was to pay him $3.8 million this season
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Hard to argue with $33Million over 4 years.
Really, IMO, there's a lot more good than bad with this contract extension. Over the next four to five years, it sounds like Arroyo and Harang will be making almost identical money, which I'm fine with.

The plan for the starting rotation is now very clear: Harang and Arroyo are locked up, and the Reds (and everybody) are hoping Bailey fits in for a nice killer threesome in the rotation from 2008-10. There's really a whole lot to love about that and not much to dislike.

Now we need to see some excellent position player and bullpen moves that parallel the rotation's plan. If that falls into place, we could be looking at a nice run from 2008-10.
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Old 02-08-2007, 11:22 AM   #28
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Re: Bronson Arroyo agrees to two-year contract extension

Oops... sorry, I didn't see the later posts about the numbers. 4 years for 33 million is pretty darn good I think. Certainly doesn't break the bank compared to some of those other recent deals out there.

I'd like to express a tentative 'Way to go, Wayne!' now!
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Old 02-08-2007, 11:22 AM   #29
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It's a big move in the fact that Bronson would not have re-upped here if he did not agree with the direction this team was going. He wants to win because that's what he's used to in Boston.

This also puts to rest (at least in my opinion) the sentiment that the Reds have no apparent "plan". Bronson Arroyo and Aaron Harang would not have been convinced to resign here if there wasn't.
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Per John Fay. Cyclone's numbers are pretty much right.


That means Arroyo and Aaron Harang will be in the rotation for at least the next four years.

I wish it was that simple. If they're healthy, they'll be here for the next 4 years.
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