Pete Rose

[westofyou]

Originally Posted by bomarl1969

Dude, with all due respect, you don't have to be a pr--- about this. Pete is obviously this man's hero. I have a little daughter who I'd will play softball when she is a bit older. You can sure as hell bet I'll show her all of Pete's video clips. And yes I'll show her the 89 clips just to show how baseball has screwed Pete.

I'm a prick now eh?

Yawn...... poor Pete Rose, damn good player, complete mess off the field.

[jojo]

Originally Posted by flyer85

whatever "bad things" have ever happened to Pete have all been self inflicted.

Is it fair? Not really the point, no one forced Pete to make all those decisions. The sad part for him is he had simply come clean to Ueberroth on betting at the track the "investigation" would never had happened. He might have spent at most a year out of baseball. It was his own over-inflated sense of self importance that led him down the path where he finds himself now.



BTW, I believe he should be in the HOF but I don't get to decide.

yes, what he said.

[dfs]

Fwiw...As a kid, I wanted to be Pete when I grew up. He did not have a bigger fan.

It's a great story along the lines of opera or Greek drama. What made Pete great, the refusal to accept his own limitations also caused his downfall. In that sense I don't want him in the hall, yet. Pete accepted a lifetime ban. It is my belief that exactly as soon as the ban is over, Pete should be accepted into the Hall of Fame.

The notion that the hall should make an exception for Pete and allow him in while he's alive, seems perverse. At one time Pete may have thought he was just "sittin out a year," after all precedent had been established with Steinbrenner's one year "lifetime ban," but the blatant commercialism of his confession has pretty much turned me away from the notion that Pete should recieve tempered mercy. He has recieved exactly what he deserves.

[Hap]

Pete Rose now makes a living by inking his signature onto pieces of paper. I once read (I forget where) that he has his autograph timed to fourteen seconds.

One time back in 1989 in Peter Ueberroth's office he could have taken fourteen seconds to ink his name onto a piece of paper.

[Chip R]

Originally Posted by Hap

Pete Rose now makes a living by inking his signature onto pieces of paper. I once read (I forget where) that he has his autograph timed to fourteen seconds.

Takes him 14 seconds to write, "Pete Rose"? Does he have arthritis like Fred Sanford?

[Hoosier Red]

Hey it's not an easy thing to spell. Silent e's on both the first and last name.

[George Anderson]

If it takes Pete 14 seconds to write Pete Rose, how long would it of taken him if his name was Carl Yastrzemski or Cesar Geronimo?

[RichRed]

Originally Posted by Chip R

Takes him 14 seconds to write, "Pete Rose"? Does he have arthritis like Fred Sanford?

"The name is Pete G. Rose and the G stands for Gambl...er, never mind. Here's your autograph, you big dummy."

[Dunner44]

Pete played with passion, but he was stupid. He deserves the hall as a player and as a man passionate for the game, but as a decision maker he deserves what he got. I'd put him in there, but its not my call.

[Redlegs]

Originally Posted by bomarl1969

Pete is obviously this man's hero.

For the record, Pete was/is not my hero. My hero was/is my late father. It just chaps my butt for baseball to use Pete when they so desire then act like he's a piece of dirt all the other times.

I'm also of the opinion the people who want him banned for life and thrown under a rock to live probably have done a few things they're ashamed of as well.

To beat it all, I can't believe I got 3 red marks on this thread. From people who didn't even contribute to the thread. I'll give WestOfYou credit for stating his opinion. He's entitled, although I don't appreciate the spin he put on the fact I'd show my kid clips of Rose. I clearly stated I'd show him clips of Rose playing the game of baseball. I love Johnny Bench as well. I'd be willing to show him clips of the best catcher in baseball history. I probably will not, however, show him clips of Johnny singing on Hee Haw. That's just as bad as Rose denying his gambling.

[harangatang]

Originally Posted by Chip R

I want to thank you for bringing up this topic because, Lord knows, we've really never had the opportunity to discuss this subject at all.

I know it's been kicked around before but posts like these could be easily solved by a FAQ/tired topics for newer people on the board.

[Phhhl]

Originally Posted by harangatang

I know it's been kicked around before but posts like these could be easily solved by a FAQ/tired topics for newer people on the board.

I understand the purpose. But, I wouldn't like something like that. We have no idea what someone is going to say on a topic, especially when new people post. Something substantial or worthy of discussion may spawn from a "tired" topic, so it's not worth diminishing the freedom of speech on this board just because certain subjects annoy some people.

It would be a kind of humorous footnote if Pete Rose was banned for life from Redszone as well.

[Always Red]

I think we should just keep an eternally running "Pete Rose" thread stickied to the top of the board...