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Old 02-19-2007, 03:40 PM   #31
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Re: GM to buy Chrysler?

I've become a fan of Sweedish cars myself. Volvo offers a nice blend of performance and luxury at a more affordable price than those made in the Fatherland.
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Old 02-19-2007, 04:37 PM   #32
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I own a Nissan Titan and my fiance owns a Honda Accord. I make parts for GM and Ford, go figure.
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Old 02-19-2007, 08:30 PM   #33
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I'm already giving serious consideration to trading my Dakota in on that new Toyota Tundra.
Those are made right here in San Antonio. It's going to be interesting to see Toyota's marketshare grow here in the biggest truck market in the country.
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Old 02-20-2007, 06:28 AM   #34
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Those are made right here in San Antonio. It's going to be interesting to see Toyota's marketshare grow here in the biggest truck market in the country.
10,000 LBS. towing capacity with the 5.7L V8 and even with the smaller 4.7L V8 you still get 8,100 LBS. of towing capacity. Those are very impressive standards by any company, plus the price is on par, and lower in some instances, than what the big 3 offer.

Toyota is onto something big here with the redsign of the Tundra.
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Old 02-20-2007, 10:46 AM   #35
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With a Ford/GM/Chrysler, what do you think about when you hear "1st model year"?
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I think about the empty pint bottle of Jack that my friends uncle found rattling around in his door panel... BTW the car was also made on Friday.
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Old 02-20-2007, 10:52 AM   #36
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Really? That's crazy. What year car was that?

1st model year is a give/take, really. 1st model-year cars actually have more content standard, before they start removing things to make the cars more profitable in later years.
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Old 02-20-2007, 11:07 AM   #37
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Really? That's crazy. What year car was that?

1st model year is a give/take, really. 1st model-year cars actually have more content standard, before they start removing things to make the cars more profitable in later years.
First year of the Escorts
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Old 02-20-2007, 01:57 PM   #38
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10,000 LBS. towing capacity with the 5.7L V8 and even with the smaller 4.7L V8 you still get 8,100 LBS. of towing capacity. Those are very impressive standards by any company, plus the price is on par, and lower in some instances, than what the big 3 offer.

Toyota is onto something big here with the redsign of the Tundra.
Sounds like what Nissan had over 3 years ago.
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10,000 LBS. towing capacity with the 5.7L V8 and even with the smaller 4.7L V8 you still get 8,100 LBS. of towing capacity. Those are very impressive standards by any company, plus the price is on par, and lower in some instances, than what the big 3 offer.

Toyota is onto something big here with the redsign of the Tundra.
Ford's 5.4L V8 has 12500 lbs towing capacity. The new 6.4 Powerstroke diesel has over 24000 lbs towing capacity. Even Chevy's 6.0L V8 has 12000 lbs. I'd say Toyota still has a ways to go. That said, I'm confident they will get there soon enough.
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No slamming the Escort man, 210K miles and still going here

Of course it's made in Mexico, my Father In Laws Toyota..make in Kentucky
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Old 02-20-2007, 02:23 PM   #41
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My wife is currently driving a Plymouth Grand Voyager mini-van. It has a little over 150,000 miles and it's never needed a major repair. She had a Plymouth Sundance prior to that and it was a very reliable car. I guess we've been lucky overall with Chrysler products.
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Old 02-20-2007, 04:50 PM   #42
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Ford's 5.4L V8 has 12500 lbs towing capacity. The new 6.4 Powerstroke diesel has over 24000 lbs towing capacity. Even Chevy's 6.0L V8 has 12000 lbs. I'd say Toyota still has a ways to go. That said, I'm confident they will get there soon enough.
Yeah but.... Though the Tundra is considered a "full size" truck, when put in comparison to the big 3's full size, to me, the Tundra appears to fall into a larger mid-size category. Somewhere between the Dakota and a full size. That is why I failed to mention the Nissan Titan. There is no doubt that the Titan is every bit as big of a truck as the Big 3's.
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Old 02-20-2007, 05:08 PM   #43
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Yeah but.... Though the Tundra is considered a "full size" truck, when put in comparison to the big 3's full size, to me, the Tundra appears to fall into a larger mid-size category. Somewhere between the Dakota and a full size. That is why I failed to mention the Nissan Titan. There is no doubt that the Titan is every bit as big of a truck as the Big 3's.
The new Tundra is really a full sized 1/2 ton rather than the 7/8 size it was before. If they come out with a dually diesel, I'm there.
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The new Tundra is really a full sized 1/2 ton rather than the 7/8 size it was before. If they come out with a dually diesel, I'm there.
That's what I thought. I've considered it to be in the 1/2 ton class competing with the F150, and 1500's. At least their commercials appear to be putting them in that class.

Give them time on the dually diesel. I'm sure it's coming in the next few years. But when it does, I don't expect it to be cheaper than the F350.
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Old 02-20-2007, 07:16 PM   #45
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(At one point, the tour guide casually mentioned that there are no unions at the plant. Meanwhile, both Ford (Hapeville) and GM (Doraville) are shuttering plants here in Atlanta...)
And yet I'm sure all of their plants in Germany and Britain are unionized. Sheesh what hypocrites.
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