Foster parents arrested for death of Marcus Fiesel - RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion

Reds4Life · 08-28-2006, 03:45 PM

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Hamilton County Prosecutor Joseph Deters, Sheriff Simon Leis, Jr and Clermont County Prosecutor Donald White held a news conference at 3:00 pm to announce the arrest of Marcus Fiesel's foster parents. They are charged with involuntary manslaughter, but more serious charges are expected.

Deters says David and Liz Carroll placed Marcus in a closet for two days, before going to a family reunion in Williamsburg, Kentucky August 4. When they returned, he was dead. David is accused of burning the boy's body in Brown County.

The news conferences held by the couple were allegedly part of their cover-up.

The Clermont County Children's Services has taken charge of the Carroll's four children.

Local 12 has the news conference covered, and will share the latest new information as we learn more

If there was ever a case for lethal injection, this is it.

Ltlabner · 08-28-2006, 03:54 PM

That makes me irrate.

With all the people who can't have children or have lost one, it makes my blood run cold that people would purposley do something like this to an innocent child they didn't have to have/be in charge of (or obviously want). If you can't handle to child, give him back to the foster care system. By "blood runs cold" I mean I'd be able to treat them as they treated the child in their care, without much thought, if given the chance. Obviously I wouldn't throw my life away to do this, but the thought is tempting when you hear of this evil in the world.

I don't want to rush to judgement, but based on how everything has unfolded in this case it's not hard to imagine something like this happening.

No punishment is severe enough IMO.

Johnny Footstool · 08-28-2006, 03:56 PM

Are there any background checks or psychological profiles required for potential foster parents?

oneupper · 08-28-2006, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Reds4Life

If there was ever a case for lethal injection, this is it.

Won't get that for involuntary manslaughter. 8-12 or something like that.
(don't know state laws and my legal experience comes from many episodes of "Law and Order"

).

oneupper · 08-28-2006, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Footstool

Are there any background checks or psychological profiles required for potential foster parents?

I think there is a nationwide shortage of foster homes.

Reds4Life · 08-28-2006, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by oneupper

Won't get that for involuntary manslaughter. 8-12 or something like that.
(don't know state laws and my legal experience comes from many episodes of "Law and Order"

).

Charges are going to be upgraded to murder.

flyer85 · 08-28-2006, 04:03 PM

????

Placing a kid in a closet for two days. (actually I'm not buying that story. I would bet he was given a beating that got too intense)

People do stuff to kids they wouldn't do to their dog.

oneupper · 08-28-2006, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Reds4Life

Charges are going to be upgraded to murder.

Wow. Probably second degree, though. Hard to prove premeditation.
25 to Life in Ohio?

Reds4Life · 08-28-2006, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by oneupper

Wow. Probably second degree, though. Hard to prove premeditation.
25 to Life in Ohio?

They'll be hit with a lot more charges. They burned the kids body on August 8th and waited 10 days to report him missing so they could come up with a story.

I'd say they are looking at life, minimum. I hope they like Lucasville.

UKFlounder · 08-28-2006, 07:55 PM

No punishment is enough for them, though it would be nice if they could receive just what they had given.

What a pathetic, awful, disgusting crime. Just sickening

redsfanmia · 08-28-2006, 07:59 PM

What an awful story, there is a special place in hell for people like this.

TeamMorris · 08-28-2006, 09:05 PM

This makes me sooooo sick!! When I heard it I wanted to throw up! What is wrong with people!!!

TeamBoone · 08-28-2006, 10:14 PM

This is soooo disgusting that it makes me shake just thinking about it.

Being a foster parent is choice... they didn't have to do it. I hope someone is a whole lot kinder to their children while they rot in prison than they were to that unfortunate little boy.

Just sickening.

Team Clark · 08-28-2006, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ricardo Cabesa

People do stuff to kids they wouldn't do to their dog.

Hamilton County prosecutor Joe Deters agrees (so do I):
"The bottom line is you wouldn't treat a dog like this," Deters said. "They never should have had a child like this in their custody."

Matt700wlw · 08-28-2006, 10:18 PM

I was afraid of this.

Let's lock them in a closet and burn them....except burn them alive.

08-28-2006, 03:54 PM	#2
Ltlabner 2009: Fail Join Date: May 2006 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 7,441	Re: Foster parents arrested for death of Marcus Fiesel That makes me irrate. With all the people who can't have children or have lost one, it makes my blood run cold that people would purposley do something like this to an innocent child they didn't have to have/be in charge of (or obviously want). If you can't handle to child, give him back to the foster care system. By "blood runs cold" I mean I'd be able to treat them as they treated the child in their care, without much thought, if given the chance. Obviously I wouldn't throw my life away to do this, but the thought is tempting when you hear of this evil in the world. I don't want to rush to judgement, but based on how everything has unfolded in this case it's not hard to imagine something like this happening. No punishment is severe enough IMO. __________________ a super volcano of ridonkulous suckitude. I simply don't have access to a "cares about RBI" place in my psyche. There is a "mildly curious about OBI%" alcove just before the acid filled lake guarded by robot snipers with lasers which leads to the "cares about RBI" antechamber though. - Nate Last edited by Ltlabner; 08-28-2006 at 07:23 PM.

08-28-2006, 03:56 PM	#3
Johnny Footstool Churlish Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Olathe, KS Posts: 13,667	Re: Foster parents arrested for death of Marcus Fiesel Are there any background checks or psychological profiles required for potential foster parents? __________________ "I prefer books and movies where the conflict isn't of the extreme cannibal apocalypse variety I guess." Redsfaithful

08-28-2006, 04:03 PM	#7
flyer85 He has the Evil Eye! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: south of the border Posts: 23,858	Re: Foster parents arrested for death of Marcus Fiesel ???? Placing a kid in a closet for two days. (actually I'm not buying that story. I would bet he was given a beating that got too intense) People do stuff to kids they wouldn't do to their dog. __________________ What are you, people? On dope? - Mr Hand Last edited by flyer85; 08-28-2006 at 04:16 PM.

08-28-2006, 07:55 PM	#10
UKFlounder Go Reds Go! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Northern KY Posts: 1,825	Re: Foster parents arrested for death of Marcus Fiesel No punishment is enough for them, though it would be nice if they could receive just what they had given. What a pathetic, awful, disgusting crime. Just sickening

08-28-2006, 07:59 PM	#11
redsfanmia Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: indianapolis, IN Posts: 3,453	Re: Foster parents arrested for death of Marcus Fiesel What an awful story, there is a special place in hell for people like this. __________________ I was in the ORG once, best 6 months of my life.

08-28-2006, 09:05 PM	#12
TeamMorris Future Reds All Star Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: TeamBoone's basement Posts: 1,416	Re: Foster parents arrested for death of Marcus Fiesel This makes me sooooo sick!! When I heard it I wanted to throw up! What is wrong with people!!!

08-28-2006, 10:14 PM	#13
TeamBoone "Let's Roll" Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 12,821	Re: Foster parents arrested for death of Marcus Fiesel This is soooo disgusting that it makes me shake just thinking about it. Being a foster parent is choice... they didn't have to do it. I hope someone is a whole lot kinder to their children while they rot in prison than they were to that unfortunate little boy. Just sickening. __________________ "Enjoy this Reds fans, you are watching a legend grow up before your very eyes" ... DoogMinAmo on Adam Dunn

08-28-2006, 10:18 PM	#15
Matt700wlw Making sense of it all Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 26,131	Re: Foster parents arrested for death of Marcus Fiesel I was afraid of this. Let's lock them in a closet and burn them....except burn them alive. __________________ An excited shade of Red

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