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REDREAD · 03-13-2007, 08:07 PM

The guy was released by the Rockies today. He had a 750k non guaranteed contract.

I'd be tempted to sign him as insurance against Ross crashing and burning.

Yes, I realize Javy is in decline, he had Conine-like numbers last year (314 OBP, 412 SLG), but he is 4 years younger than Conine.

Not saying it is a great idea to sign him (not even sure if it's a good one), but I'd sure rather have him than Chad Moeller. I'm not even sure if he would accept a bench role on this team. At least Javy would be a passable pinch hitter. He might end up as a better option than Ross (who I don't have a lot of confidence in).

Yeah, I know one should not expect much from a 36 year old catcher, but likewise, I'm not comfortable handing the job full time to Ross and hoping he repeats last years numbers.

hebroncougar · 03-13-2007, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by REDREAD

The guy was released by the Rockies today. He had a 750k non guaranteed contract.

I'd be tempted to sign him as insurance against Ross crashing and burning.

Yes, I realize Javy is in decline, he had Conine-like numbers last year (314 OBP, 412 SLG), but he is 4 years younger than Conine.

Not saying it is a great idea to sign him (not even sure if it's a good one), but I'd sure rather have him than Chad Moeller. I'm not even sure if he would accept a bench role on this team. At least Javy would be a passable pinch hitter. He might end up as a better option than Ross (who I don't have a lot of confidence in).

Yeah, I know one should not expect much from a 36 year old catcher, but likewise, I'm not comfortable handing the job full time to Ross and hoping he repeats last years numbers.

You answer the question right there yourself. Valentin and Moeller are better insurance policies I think. Lopez juiced up a few years ago and got a big contract and has been pretty worthless since. I'm not sure how much he caught last year either, and how much he dh'd.

Strikes Out Looking · 03-13-2007, 08:20 PM

Stick a fork in him, he's done.

blumj · 03-13-2007, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by hebroncougar

You answer the question right there yourself. Valentin and Moeller are better insurance policies I think. Lopez juiced up a few years ago and got a big contract and has been pretty worthless since. I'm not sure how much he caught last year either, and how much he dh'd.

He's a terrible catcher, and trust me, I saw way too much of him trying to catch last year. And since he really doesn't hit much anymore, he doesn't seem like a good bet to be of any use at all.

KronoRed · 03-13-2007, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Strikes Out Looking

Stick a fork in him, he's done.

So is Conine, Lopez looks like our kind of player

edabbs44 · 03-13-2007, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KronoRed

So is Conine, Lopez looks like our kind of player

Marty said his bod reminds him of a young Cary Grant.

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REDREAD · 03-13-2007, 09:32 PM

Yeah, I see your points, was just trying to stir some discussion.

Actually, if we didn't have Conine already (who is going to cost us around 1.5-2 million ?? I forget), then grabbing Javy would make more sense.. He'd be a RH bat off the bench.

That's another reason I dislike the Conine deal. Wayne panics and absolutely has to have a RH bench bat and actually trades two minor leaguers for Conine, when there's plenty of washed up guys that are starting to be available right now. It would be different if Conine was the piece to put us over the top.. but come on..

Dracodave · 03-13-2007, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by REDREAD

That's another reason I dislike the Conine deal. Wayne panics and absolutely has to have a RH bench bat and actually trades two minor leaguers for Conine, when there's plenty of washed up guys that are starting to be available right now. It would be different if Conine was the piece to put us over the top.. but come on..

We have a guy in Triple A who kills lefties in Guieretez (Spelling), and he plays first base.

The trade for Conine was nothing more than...well...Im still trying to figure it out.

pedro · 03-13-2007, 09:48 PM

I dislike the Conine deal for two reasons. 1) we traded for Jeff Conine! and 2) we traded a human for Jeff Conine!

TOBTTReds · 03-13-2007, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by blumj

He's a terrible catcher, and trust me, I saw way too much of him trying to catch last year. And since he really doesn't hit much anymore, he doesn't seem like a good bet to be of any use at all.

I second this notion.

03-13-2007, 08:07 PM	#1
REDREAD Where's my chair? Join Date: Apr 2000 Posts: 19,798	Javy Lopez? The guy was released by the Rockies today. He had a 750k non guaranteed contract. I'd be tempted to sign him as insurance against Ross crashing and burning. Yes, I realize Javy is in decline, he had Conine-like numbers last year (314 OBP, 412 SLG), but he is 4 years younger than Conine. Not saying it is a great idea to sign him (not even sure if it's a good one), but I'd sure rather have him than Chad Moeller. I'm not even sure if he would accept a bench role on this team. At least Javy would be a passable pinch hitter. He might end up as a better option than Ross (who I don't have a lot of confidence in). Yeah, I know one should not expect much from a 36 year old catcher, but likewise, I'm not comfortable handing the job full time to Ross and hoping he repeats last years numbers. __________________ Thank you Walt and Bob for going for it in 2012 AND 2013! Nov. 13, 2007: One of the greatest days in Reds history: John Allen gets the boot!

03-13-2007, 08:20 PM	#3
Strikes Out Looking Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 2,266	Re: Javy Lopez? Stick a fork in him, he's done. __________________ The Future Is Now!

03-13-2007, 09:32 PM	#7
REDREAD Where's my chair? Join Date: Apr 2000 Posts: 19,798	Re: Javy Lopez? Yeah, I see your points, was just trying to stir some discussion. Actually, if we didn't have Conine already (who is going to cost us around 1.5-2 million ?? I forget), then grabbing Javy would make more sense.. He'd be a RH bat off the bench. That's another reason I dislike the Conine deal. Wayne panics and absolutely has to have a RH bench bat and actually trades two minor leaguers for Conine, when there's plenty of washed up guys that are starting to be available right now. It would be different if Conine was the piece to put us over the top.. but come on.. __________________ Thank you Walt and Bob for going for it in 2012 AND 2013! Nov. 13, 2007: One of the greatest days in Reds history: John Allen gets the boot!

03-13-2007, 09:48 PM	#9
pedro Please come again Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: portland, oregon Posts: 14,716	Re: Javy Lopez? I dislike the Conine deal for two reasons. 1) we traded for Jeff Conine! and 2) we traded a human for Jeff Conine! __________________ Get your nunchucks and the keys to your dad's car. I know where we can get a gun

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