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Spike · 03-20-2007, 12:21 AM

Narron was quoted as saying: Stuff-wise, he's probably got the best of anybody in our bullpen." -- Narron, on Rule 5 Draft pick Jared Burton, a 25-year-old right-hander

I have quietly been promoting Burton, at least for a look see. With the new press on Hermanson, I don't know if it will happen, but if Burton has the stuff, it would be tough to let him go.

dougdirt · 03-20-2007, 12:27 AM

It would really be a shame if Burton and "the best stuff in the bullpen" were to be cut to make way for a soft tosser like Cormier or Hermanson.....

Nugget · 03-20-2007, 12:33 AM

Didn't Narron also say the same thing about Lohse in reference to the rotation. The fact that they cut Lightenberg and Salmon probably bodes well for Burton.

Just reading the stuff about closing (especially what Everyday Eddie said) its not always about stuff but the mind too. So there's more to closing than just having the best fastball and curve.

Johnny Footstool · 03-20-2007, 12:59 AM

What has Burton done in the minors to warrant a shot in a major league bullpen?

M2 · 03-20-2007, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Footstool

What has Burton done in the minors to warrant a shot in a major league bullpen?

Nothing in particular, but I'm willing to watch the frachise throw some crap against the wall provided it's being thrown at high velocity.

Ravenlord · 03-20-2007, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by M2

Nothing in particular, but I'm willing to watch the frachise throw some crap against the wall provided it's being throw at high velocity.

that would be a very welcome change.

halcyon · 03-20-2007, 01:49 AM

Yeah, I guess if you're going to experiment then you might as well try it with guys who have "stuff". It also helps that the Reds aren't swimming in guys with the aforementioned "stuff".

mth123 · 03-20-2007, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Footstool

What has Burton done in the minors to warrant a shot in a major league bullpen?

Right now nothing. But 2009 is the time for this team and by then Burton and his stuff could be contributing. None of the geezers will still be around then and the other guys can still be stashed at AAA. To get his arm in the organization Burton needs to be kept. For me its as simple as that. With this pen, 2007 is not as an important consideration IMO.

Burton is in the same boat as Hamilton. Step one is to secure them in the organization.

Heath · 03-20-2007, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mth123

Burton is in the same boat as Hamilton. Step one is to secure them in the organization.

A little out of petty cash should be able to keep Burton in Cincinnati.

RANDY IN INDY · 03-20-2007, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by M2

Nothing in particular, but I'm willing to watch the frachise throw some crap against the wall provided it's being throw at high velocity.

Absolutely!

GAC · 03-20-2007, 08:08 AM

I don't know much about this kid; but if he hasn't been seen much at all in the majors then that might be a plus (at least for a year).

Krusty · 03-20-2007, 09:48 AM

I still think Cormier will be dealt before Opening Day, which will create a spot for Burton.

LincolnparkRed · 03-20-2007, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Krusty

I still think Cormier will be dealt before Opening Day, which will create a spot for Burton.

Dare to dream. Maybe Philly will take him back. Also with the annual Wood injury the Cubs are looking for help. I know they say don't trade within your division but I would think Cormier to the Cubs would be a win-win situation for us.

REDREAD · 03-20-2007, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Footstool

What has Burton done in the minors to warrant a shot in a major league bullpen?

You raise a good point Johnny.

I see Burton as potentially a part in rebuilding the pitching staff. I'd like to have him on the team as the 12th man on the staff, and let him pitch 40-50 innings of mop up (or a more important role if his performance warrants it).

Then next year, he can be optioned to the minors if need be.

He clearly seems to be our best relief pitching prospect, so I think we need to hold on to him.

This year, Burton may be no better than the old guys, but hopefully he'll be a solid contributor down the road. With a 12 man staff, we could carry him. Put Maj on the DL until you can unload Cormier and free up a roster spot.

MaineRed · 03-20-2007, 10:17 AM

Its amazing how much weight the word of one Jerry Narron carries when folks agree with what he says.

03-20-2007, 12:21 AM	#1
Spike Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Rochester NY Posts: 92	Narron on Burton Narron was quoted as saying: Stuff-wise, he's probably got the best of anybody in our bullpen." -- Narron, on Rule 5 Draft pick Jared Burton, a 25-year-old right-hander I have quietly been promoting Burton, at least for a look see. With the new press on Hermanson, I don't know if it will happen, but if Burton has the stuff, it would be tough to let him go. __________________ "Just shut up and play baseball"...Mike Piazza

03-20-2007, 12:27 AM	#2
dougdirt The Boss Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 31,108	Re: Narron on Burton It would really be a shame if Burton and "the best stuff in the bullpen" were to be cut to make way for a soft tosser like Cormier or Hermanson..... __________________ www.redsminorleagues.com

03-20-2007, 12:33 AM	#3
Nugget Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NorthEast Posts: 1,002	Re: Narron on Burton Didn't Narron also say the same thing about Lohse in reference to the rotation. The fact that they cut Lightenberg and Salmon probably bodes well for Burton. Just reading the stuff about closing (especially what Everyday Eddie said) its not always about stuff but the mind too. So there's more to closing than just having the best fastball and curve.

03-20-2007, 12:59 AM	#4
Johnny Footstool Churlish Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Olathe, KS Posts: 13,676	Re: Narron on Burton What has Burton done in the minors to warrant a shot in a major league bullpen? __________________ "I prefer books and movies where the conflict isn't of the extreme cannibal apocalypse variety I guess." Redsfaithful

03-20-2007, 01:49 AM	#7
halcyon Habitual Line Stepper Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: VA Posts: 350	Re: Narron on Burton Yeah, I guess if you're going to experiment then you might as well try it with guys who have "stuff". It also helps that the Reds aren't swimming in guys with the aforementioned "stuff".

03-20-2007, 08:08 AM	#11
GAC What Me Worry? Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Bellefontaine, Ohio Posts: 26,430	Re: Narron on Burton I don't know much about this kid; but if he hasn't been seen much at all in the majors then that might be a plus (at least for a year). __________________ "panic" only comes from having real expectations

03-20-2007, 09:48 AM	#12
Krusty Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Williamsport, PA Posts: 12,311	Re: Narron on Burton I still think Cormier will be dealt before Opening Day, which will create a spot for Burton. __________________ If you think small, you'll go nowhere in life.

03-20-2007, 10:17 AM	#15
MaineRed Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Maine Posts: 1,850	Re: Narron on Burton Its amazing how much weight the word of one Jerry Narron carries when folks agree with what he says.

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