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Old 04-18-2007, 09:51 AM   #16
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I think EE was the straw that broke the camel's back so to speak. After seeing sluggish and sloppy play for the better part of 3 days, Narron removed EE from the game and talked to him about it.

In the midst of an 11 run outburst, forgive Narron for being a little more lax.
you either apply the consistently or you don't. When you don't they become meaningless because nobody knows when you are going to choose to enforce them.
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Old 04-18-2007, 09:55 AM   #17
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Old 04-18-2007, 09:58 AM   #18
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You are saying that a guy hitting a pop up, not picking it up right away, but once he does see it stays in the batters box and never moves is the same as a guy hitting a ball he thinks is out then realizes its not out, and gets a triple?

I see a difference between them. They were both misjudgments. The difference is, once BP figured out he misjudged he busted his butt to get to third. Once EE figured out he misjudged it, he stayed in the batters box and did nothing.

To me there is a difference.

Did BP hustle or not?
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Old 04-18-2007, 10:00 AM   #19
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Did BP hustle or not?
Not at first. Apparently it's okay to not hustle as long as you make up for it later.
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Old 04-18-2007, 10:01 AM   #20
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Did BP hustle or not?
... only after the ball bounced off the wall.
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Old 04-18-2007, 10:04 AM   #21
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... only after the ball bounced off the wall.
There's one of the caveats. You can lollygag and showboat as long as you start running once you realize you've screwed up. Nevermind that it likely cost you a base. I guess you can call it selective hustling.
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Old 04-18-2007, 10:04 AM   #22
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Basically, Narron has just put caveats on hustling.
And in doing so, revealed his dislike for EE.

I fear for EE's future with the Reds while Narron's at the helm.
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Old 04-18-2007, 10:06 AM   #23
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And in doing so, revealed his dislike for EE.

I fear for EE's future with the Reds while Narron's at the helm.
Yup. What we saw previewed last season.
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Old 04-18-2007, 10:07 AM   #24
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I can't think of a single team I've ever seen in which the manager treated all the players exactly the same.
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Old 04-18-2007, 10:07 AM   #25
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And in doing so, revealed his dislike for EE.
Impossible. Narron has expressed much love for EE in newspaper interviews.
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Old 04-18-2007, 10:10 AM   #26
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Looks to me like Narron's hustle or you don't play rule is nothing but an empty threat.
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Old 04-18-2007, 10:12 AM   #27
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They clearly see some work ethic/attitude/approach issues with Edwin that they're trying to correct. You really can't criticize Phillips for those things. He's one of the real gamers on this team.

And I think EE is in danger of punching a ticket out of Cincinnati. Not saying it's the right move, but I think they want to get Hamilton in the lineup without getting Freel out of it (as has been said many times, Freel is the team's only true leadoff hitter). I think Edwin could be the odd man out and trade bait by the deadline.

If anyone listened to the radio broadcast last night, it's pretty obvious that those close to the team see this as a little more than just Freel going back to super-sub duty. It may not play out that way, but that's the way they see it right now.
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Old 04-18-2007, 10:14 AM   #28
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If anyone listened to the radio broadcast last night, it's pretty obvious that those close to the team see this as a little more than just Freel going back to super-sub duty. It may not play out that way, but that's the way they see it right now.
I listened to the radio broadcast. Marty is no fan of Freel at 3B. He wasn't ripping him per say, but you could tell he's not a fan of Freel's defense at 3B.
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Old 04-18-2007, 10:23 AM   #29
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You are absolutely right. But Phillips did what he had to do to get to 3rd. EE didn't sprint down to first once he picked up the flight of that pop up.

It's all about righting your wrongs.
Never let 1 mistake become 2...a mantra of coaches everywhere, myself included...

You turned it over, get your butt back on defense...

You slanted inside and gambled, hustle your butt downfield and make the tackle...

You started loafing, but saw the ball hit the wall, bust your butt and get to 3rd base...
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Old 04-18-2007, 10:27 AM   #30
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Never let 1 mistake become 2...a mantra of coaches everywhere, myself included...

You turned it over, get your butt back on defense...

You slanted inside and gambled, hustle your butt downfield and make the tackle...

You started loafing, but saw the ball hit the wall, bust your butt and get to 3rd base...
To put it into Redszone perspective:

You showed some man-love for Milton, now hit that Edit button and get with the program.
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