Saint Wayne Krivsky

[edabbs44]

I am happy to announce that Wayne is well on his way to becoming a saint. He has officially performed the miracle of constructing a bullpen which is worse than the debacle of '06. Congrats Wayne...most said it could never be done.

I'm sorry to say, but Wayne has to go. Actually, I'm not that sorry. He's been bad.

Peace out Krivsky.

[WMR]

In.

[Tom Servo]

Hire Paul DePodesta.

[WMR]

Originally Posted by Tom Servo

Hire Paul DePodesta.

::orgasm::

[Falls City Beer]

Originally Posted by Tom Servo

Hire Paul DePodesta.

Yeah, I'd like MY chances of gaining the GM-ship over De Podesta; I imagine Cast would call him a pencil-neck geek. Not a firm handshake kind of guy that Cast likes.

[KoryMac5]

The bullpen is awful and I don't see any relief in sight. To blame one person though for this mess is a bit harsh and shortsighted. From reading many of your threads I know your true feelings in regards to our GM and I frankly think that those feelings are clouding your thoughts. Narron, Krivs, Hume, Pole, Allen and Cast have to take responsibility for the mess that we call a bullpen that has turned into bullcrap. A move needs to be made and some players need to be dealt to stabilize this pen. How much are we willing to spend on Linebrink or Cordero etc...

[Aronchis]

Cast would what? Considering Cast was rejected by the Indians assistant(can't remember his name) and the Marlins Hill, I think he covered the bases.

The problem is, the Reds are not a attractive GM spot. Hence, you better dig. Krivsky got the job through the people he would eventually fire.

If we want power arms youth movement in the pen, you better be patient. That will take 2-3 years to accomplish.

[Falls City Beer]

Originally Posted by Aronchis

Cast would what? Considering Cast was rejected by the Indians assistant(can't remember his name) and the Marlins Hill, I think he covered the bases.

The problem is, the Reds are not a attractive GM spot. Hence, you better dig. Krivsky got the job through the people he would eventually fire.

If we want power arms youth movement in the pen, you better be patient. That will take 2-3 years to accomplish.

Then he needs to spend more money and try harder to get the right guy for the job.

[edabbs44]

Originally Posted by KoryMac5

The bullpen is awful and I don't see any relief in sight. To blame one person though for this mess is a bit harsh and shortsighted. From reading many of your threads I know your true feelings in regards to our GM and I frankly think that those feelings are clouding your thoughts. Narron, Krivs, Hume, Pole, Allen and Cast have to take responsibility for the mess that we call a bullpen that has turned into bull####. A move needs to be made and some players need to be dealt to stabilize this pen. How much are we willing to spend on Linebrink or Cordero etc...

How on God's good earth can someone lay the blame of the bullpen on anyone but Krivsky? He's the GM.

He made "the trade"
He signed Weathers
He signed Stanton
He dealt for Cormier and signed him to an extension
He traded for Saarloos
He signed Santos

This is his bullpen. Blame Narron or Pole? For what...not being able to squeeze water from a stone? You can only do so much. At some point, you need someone with talent on the mound.

I'll throw a little blame at Big Bob. He talked a big game about spending money and putting a winner on the field.

[WMR]

Originally Posted by edabbs44

How on God's good earth can someone lay the blame of the bullpen on anyone but Krivsky? He's the GM.

He made "the trade"
He signed Weathers
He signed Stanton
He dealt for Cormier and signed him to an extension
He traded for Saarloos
He signed Santos

This is his bullpen. Blame Narron or Pole? For what...not being able to squeeze water from a stone? You can only do so much. At some point, you need someone with talent on the mound.

I'll throw a little blame at Big Bob. He talked a big game about spending money and putting a winner on the field.

[Yachtzee]

Originally Posted by Aronchis

Cast would what? Considering Cast was rejected by the Indians assistant(can't remember his name) and the Marlins Hill, I think he covered the bases.

The problem is, the Reds are not a attractive GM spot. Hence, you better dig. Krivsky got the job through the people he would eventually fire.

If we want power arms youth movement in the pen, you better be patient. That will take 2-3 years to accomplish.

Antonetti was the Indians assistant. If you want to make the Reds attractive to a GM like that, you're going to have to give him free rain over baseball operations to let him clean house, or else you have to hire a mentor of his as team president. I think there's concern about the way the Reds have been run over the years that scares away top candidates, especially with the "lowest bidder" mentality toward hiring decisions in the farm system.

I can be patient about the farm system, but I'd like to see some of these young arms start making it above AA before turning into pumpkins.

[WMR]

Don't forget that the deals for Weathers and Stanton are multi-year, making them near impossible to just eat till next season.

[Aronchis]

Originally Posted by Falls City Beer

Then he needs to spend more money and try harder to get the right guy for the job.

Listen, spending money is great but the Reds only have a finite sample. What happens if Krivsky builds a top notch minor league system? Maybe all the money should be put there.

[Aronchis]

Originally Posted by WilyMoROCKS

Don't forget that the deals for Weathers and Stanton are multi-year, making them near impossible to just eat till next season.

Nothing personally, but Weathers would be a easy trade bait. Stanton maybe to if he recovers mid-years.

[WMR]

You think so? Maybe Weathers, I guess, but that's a hell of a big IF where Stanton is concerned.