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Matt700wlw · 05-14-2007, 07:05 PM

From a baseball source (Lance's source, not mine) on the thought of managing the Reds

"I not only believe he'd be interested in the job, but he would take it, if the money was right. He knows what that teams has, what's coming off the books in the next year or two money wise and what is coming up in their system. He would change that team. In the clubhouse it's Joe's way or the highway."

He added, "It's only tough to play for Joe, if you don't play the game the right way."

Before you go and rip Lance and his "baseball source," just remember who had the Thom Brennaman and Jeff Brantley to the booth news before anybody else...

justincredible · 05-14-2007, 07:07 PM

He's not Narron and wouldn't have been promoted from within. I'd be on board.

jojo · 05-14-2007, 07:10 PM

I'm not really a big fan of Girardi.....picture the volatility of Ozzie without half of the talent to make him look good...

hebroncougar · 05-14-2007, 07:11 PM

I'm not convinced the Reds will fire Narron anytime soon.

Screwball · 05-14-2007, 07:13 PM

I'm reminded of what a poster by the handle of ramp101 had to say about Girardi...

"Man, nobody liked Girardi last year on the Marlins save for 2 veterans. I don't remember a whole lot because I have blocked most of last year out but here is what I do remember. The no facial hair policy. You wouldn't think it was a big deal, but when atleast 15 players showed up to camp this year with facial hair, you knew what was up.

He had no idea how to run a bullpen and has no clue how to judge talent. This is the same manager who wanted Mike Jacobs to be in the minors and Josh Willingham behind homeplate. He wanted Josh Johnson to be in AA while retreads like Brian Moehler to get most of the starts in the 3rd spot in the rotation.

He talked back to his owner and told him to "f" himself. This is the same guy who routinely bunted with Dan Uggla (hitting 2nd in the order). The same Dan Uggla who set a rookie record with 27 homeruns at 2B. This is the same guy who routinely started Alfredo Amezaga in CF vs lefties, when his career OPS vs them is under .400.

I have never hated a manager so much in my life. And I had to deal with Jeff Torborg, so that's saying alot.

hope that helps"

Not exactly a ringing endoresment from someone who actually followed the Marlins last year.

KoryMac5 · 05-14-2007, 07:24 PM

Joe may have learned from his experience with the Marlins last year, I am leaning more towards Kelly being the guy just because of the Twins connection. I would imagine that Girardi or Kelly would want more $$$ than Narron makes currently.

Matt700wlw · 05-14-2007, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KoryMac5

Joe may have learned from his experience with the Marlins last year, I am leaning more towards Kelly being the guy just because of the Twins connection. I would imagine that Girardi or Kelly would want more $$$ than Narron makes currently.

Any manager is going to want more money than Narron makes currently.

You get what you pay for....you want a better manager? You want a manger than can lead this team into the future (whomever that may be)? Pay up!

Unassisted · 05-14-2007, 07:34 PM

Everyone should read the opinion of RedsZone's favorite Marlins fan before they get too excited about Girardi. This grass isn't necessarily greener...

redsfanmia · 05-14-2007, 07:36 PM

If the Reds could get Tom Kelly on board that would be a great hire, he would absolutley set these guys straight and wouldnt put up with anyones stuff. Tom Kelly would be my first choice to replace Narron.

Ron Madden · 05-14-2007, 07:40 PM

You get what you pay for.

Jerry Narron
Dave Miley
Bob Boone
Jack McKeon
Ray Knight

Four of the Reds last five Managers will probably never Manage another MLB Team.

I don't know who should replace Narron but this organization has to avoid the mistakes of the past.

Chip R · 05-14-2007, 07:45 PM

Terrific. Another ex-catcher. Seems to me that the best managers the Reds have had in the past 40 years have been middle infielders.

StillFunkyB · 05-14-2007, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chip R

Terrific. Another ex-catcher. Seems to me that the best managers the Reds have had in the past 40 years have been middle infielders.

Barry Larkin anyone?

Wheelhouse · 05-14-2007, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Screwball

I'm reminded of what a poster by the handle of ramp101 had to say about Girardi...

"Man, nobody liked Girardi last year on the Marlins save for 2 veterans. I don't remember a whole lot because I have blocked most of last year out but here is what I do remember. The no facial hair policy. You wouldn't think it was a big deal, but when atleast 15 players showed up to camp this year with facial hair, you knew what was up.

He had no idea how to run a bullpen and has no clue how to judge talent. This is the same manager who wanted Mike Jacobs to be in the minors and Josh Willingham behind homeplate. He wanted Josh Johnson to be in AA while retreads like Brian Moehler to get most of the starts in the 3rd spot in the rotation.

He talked back to his owner and told him to "f" himself. This is the same guy who routinely bunted with Dan Uggla (hitting 2nd in the order). The same Dan Uggla who set a rookie record with 27 homeruns at 2B. This is the same guy who routinely started Alfredo Amezaga in CF vs lefties, when his career OPS vs them is under .400.

I have never hated a manager so much in my life. And I had to deal with Jeff Torborg, so that's saying alot.

hope that helps"

Not exactly a ringing endoresment from someone who actually followed the Marlins last year.

1) I don't think it's a bad thing if players aren't warm and fuzzy over their manager.

2) Of course the rookies hated the no facial hair policy.

3) He can't handle a bullpen nearly as poorly as Narron.

4) His team improved the longer he was there. Narron's has gotten worse.

5) Loria is a goof and deserved to be told what he was told.

6) Along with his 27 HRs Uggla had 123 strikeouts. I can imagine instances where you would want to bunt him.

Matt700wlw · 05-14-2007, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StillFunkyB

Barry Larkin anyone?

Not sure if Larkin should be in the dugout as long as Griffey is still here...

I'd love him in the organization, though.

StillFunkyB · 05-14-2007, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt700wlw

Not sure if Larkin should be in the dugout as long as Griffey is still here...

I'd love him in the organization, though.

Why? Because they are friends?

05-14-2007, 07:05 PM	#1
Matt700wlw Making sense of it all Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 26,130	Joe Girardi anyone? From a baseball source (Lance's source, not mine) on the thought of managing the Reds "I not only believe he'd be interested in the job, but he would take it, if the money was right. He knows what that teams has, what's coming off the books in the next year or two money wise and what is coming up in their system. He would change that team. In the clubhouse it's Joe's way or the highway." He added, "It's only tough to play for Joe, if you don't play the game the right way." Before you go and rip Lance and his "baseball source," just remember who had the Thom Brennaman and Jeff Brantley to the booth news before anybody else... __________________ An excited shade of Red

05-14-2007, 07:07 PM	#2
justincredible throws 106. NBD. Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,178	Re: Joe Girardi anyone? He's not Narron and wouldn't have been promoted from within. I'd be on board.

05-14-2007, 07:10 PM	#3
jojo Five Tool Fool Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 16,569	Re: Joe Girardi anyone? I'm not really a big fan of Girardi.....picture the volatility of Ozzie without half of the talent to make him look good... __________________ "This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner

05-14-2007, 07:11 PM	#4
hebroncougar Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,017	Re: Joe Girardi anyone? I'm not convinced the Reds will fire Narron anytime soon.

05-14-2007, 07:13 PM	#5
Screwball Boom Goes the Dynamite Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: West Chester Posts: 2,406	Re: Joe Girardi anyone? I'm reminded of what a poster by the handle of ramp101 had to say about Girardi... "Man, nobody liked Girardi last year on the Marlins save for 2 veterans. I don't remember a whole lot because I have blocked most of last year out but here is what I do remember. The no facial hair policy. You wouldn't think it was a big deal, but when atleast 15 players showed up to camp this year with facial hair, you knew what was up. He had no idea how to run a bullpen and has no clue how to judge talent. This is the same manager who wanted Mike Jacobs to be in the minors and Josh Willingham behind homeplate. He wanted Josh Johnson to be in AA while retreads like Brian Moehler to get most of the starts in the 3rd spot in the rotation. He talked back to his owner and told him to "f" himself. This is the same guy who routinely bunted with Dan Uggla (hitting 2nd in the order). The same Dan Uggla who set a rookie record with 27 homeruns at 2B. This is the same guy who routinely started Alfredo Amezaga in CF vs lefties, when his career OPS vs them is under .400. I have never hated a manager so much in my life. And I had to deal with Jeff Torborg, so that's saying alot. hope that helps" Not exactly a ringing endoresment from someone who actually followed the Marlins last year.

05-14-2007, 07:24 PM	#6
KoryMac5 Kmac5 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Waterloo, NY Posts: 3,661	Re: Joe Girardi anyone? Joe may have learned from his experience with the Marlins last year, I am leaning more towards Kelly being the guy just because of the Twins connection. I would imagine that Girardi or Kelly would want more $$$ than Narron makes currently. __________________ If you have a losing record at Reds games, please stop going.

05-14-2007, 07:34 PM	#8
Unassisted RZ Chamber of Commerce Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: San Antonio Posts: 13,222	Re: Joe Girardi anyone? Everyone should read the opinion of RedsZone's favorite Marlins fan before they get too excited about Girardi. This grass isn't necessarily greener... __________________ /r/reds

05-14-2007, 07:36 PM	#9
redsfanmia Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: indianapolis, IN Posts: 3,453	Re: Joe Girardi anyone? If the Reds could get Tom Kelly on board that would be a great hire, he would absolutley set these guys straight and wouldnt put up with anyones stuff. Tom Kelly would be my first choice to replace Narron. __________________ I was in the ORG once, best 6 months of my life.

05-14-2007, 07:40 PM	#10
Ron Madden Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,815	Re: Joe Girardi anyone? You get what you pay for. Jerry Narron Dave Miley Bob Boone Jack McKeon Ray Knight Four of the Reds last five Managers will probably never Manage another MLB Team. I don't know who should replace Narron but this organization has to avoid the mistakes of the past.

05-14-2007, 07:45 PM	#11
Chip R Rally Onion! Join Date: May 2000 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 33,221	Re: Joe Girardi anyone? Terrific. Another ex-catcher. Seems to me that the best managers the Reds have had in the past 40 years have been middle infielders. __________________ The Rally Onion wants 150 fans before Opening Day. http://www.facebook.com/pages/Rally-...24872650873160

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