Castellini doesn't want to win!! - RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion

Jim Fazio · 05-27-2007, 03:06 PM

The Reds had the perfect chance to turn around their season with 4 against the Nats and 4 with the Pirates and they get smoked at home. You can tell he doesn't want to win, if he did he would make drastic changes. If Narron can't get the Reds to win against these teams at home, how will he ever get them to win. Start the fire sale now, bring up the young kids, make some deals and fire the Mgr now if you want to win in the future. But he won't because they are afraid to move people within the organization.

NorrisHopper30 · 05-27-2007, 03:19 PM

I'm sure he's trying to lose

RedEye · 05-27-2007, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Fazio

The Reds had the perfect chance to turn around their season with 4 against the Nats and 4 with the Pirates and they get smoked at home. You can tell he doesn't want to win, if he did he would make drastic changes. If Narron can't get the Reds to win against these teams at home, how will he ever get them to win. Start the fire sale now, bring up the young kids, make some deals and fire the Mgr now if you want to win in the future. But he won't because they are afraid to move people within the organization.

I'm not sure doing any of those things hastily will be good for the future.

nate · 05-27-2007, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Fazio

The Reds had the perfect chance to turn around their season with 4 against the Nats and 4 with the Pirates and they get smoked at home. You can tell he doesn't want to win, if he did he would make drastic changes. If Narron can't get the Reds to win against these teams at home, how will he ever get them to win. Start the fire sale now, bring up the young kids, make some deals and fire the Mgr now if you want to win in the future. But he won't because they are afraid to move people within the organization.

I hear he's a lousy tipper too.

BurgervilleBuck · 05-27-2007, 03:35 PM

Castellini's good buddy, W, doesn't know how to run a war. Quite apt that Mr. C. doesn't know how to run a ball club.

jimbo · 05-27-2007, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Fazio

You can tell he doesn't want to win, if he did he would make drastic changes.

With all due respect, that is just a crazy statement.

BurgervilleBuck · 05-27-2007, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbo

With all due respect, that is just a crazy statement.

With all due respect, this is a crazy statement:

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"We're much better than we've played," Castellini said. "But the results sure don't show it, do they?"

Strikes Out Looking · 05-27-2007, 04:00 PM

I think he wants to win, but he is relying on people who have no clue and he's buying it, hook line and sinker.

cincrazy · 05-27-2007, 04:04 PM

Castellini hasn't even been in control of this club for two years. It takes time to rebuild a decimated franchise. Ask John Hart from his early days in Cleveland, and Mark Shapiro currently in Cleveland, and Dave Dombrowski in Detroit, and so on and so on.

RedEye · 05-27-2007, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Strikes Out Looking

I think he wants to win, but he is relying on people who have no clue and he's buying it, hook line and sinker.

I wonder if he'll ever stop buying it? I'm also curious whether Reds management has decided to start looking only at the pythag of their W-L record for 2007. This because the phrase "We're better than our record shows" seems to be coming out of their mouths a lot lately. If only they would start looking at some of the other relevant new statistical measurements... like their real W-L record!

nate · 05-27-2007, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BurgervilleBuck

Castellini's good buddy, W, doesn't know how to run a war. Quite apt that Mr. C. doesn't know how to run a ball club.

George Anderson · 05-27-2007, 08:12 PM

Lets see, Lets spend a million plus dollars on a franchise so we can lose!!!!! Right on Daddy O!!!!!!

Doro · 05-27-2007, 08:31 PM

yep I'm sure he likes losing. This sounds like crap on talk radio.

harangatang · 05-27-2007, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BurgervilleBuck

With all due respect, this is a crazy statement

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"We're much better than we've played," Castellini said. "But the results sure don't show it, do they?"

The fact of the matter is the Reds are playing well below where they should be right now. The Pythagoren W-L over the last few days has gotten worse but a few days ago they should've been 22-23 instead of 10 games under .500. Let the Washington Nationals a few years ago be an example when they had a -2 run differential (a .500 Pythagorean W-L record) and were around 10 games above .500. All of a sudden the law of averages kicked in and they fell back down to where they should've been in the first place. So Castellini is right and that statement shows me he may know a little about baseball. That is a promising thing that is different from our last owner.

Ludwig Reds Fan · 05-28-2007, 11:21 AM

I ran into Bob yesterday I was like, "Bob! Are you trying to lose or what?"

He was like, "yep. Thats my secret plan. But don't tell anyone. "

/end sarcasm

05-27-2007, 03:06 PM	#1
Jim Fazio Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 222	Castellini doesn't want to win!! The Reds had the perfect chance to turn around their season with 4 against the Nats and 4 with the Pirates and they get smoked at home. You can tell he doesn't want to win, if he did he would make drastic changes. If Narron can't get the Reds to win against these teams at home, how will he ever get them to win. Start the fire sale now, bring up the young kids, make some deals and fire the Mgr now if you want to win in the future. But he won't because they are afraid to move people within the organization.

05-27-2007, 03:19 PM	#2
NorrisHopper30 Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Milford, Clifton Posts: 1,585	Re: Castellini doesn't want to win!! I'm sure he's trying to lose __________________ Follow me on twitter @EricLilly7 Check out my Reds blog! Hit me up with any advice on it at anytime, it's always appreciated. http://redscheatsheet.blogspot.com/

05-27-2007, 03:35 PM	#5
BurgervilleBuck Schnickelfritz Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wyldur Posts: 698	Re: Castellini doesn't want to win!! Castellini's good buddy, W, doesn't know how to run a war. Quite apt that Mr. C. doesn't know how to run a ball club. __________________ That Joey Votto is some kind of Man Candy! "For them to boo me like that, it lets me know they dream about me at night.” -- Brandon Phillips on Cards fans.

05-27-2007, 04:00 PM	#8
Strikes Out Looking Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 2,264	Re: Castellini doesn't want to win!! I think he wants to win, but he is relying on people who have no clue and he's buying it, hook line and sinker.

05-27-2007, 04:04 PM	#9
cincrazy Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Vienna, OH Posts: 4,122	Re: Castellini doesn't want to win!! Castellini hasn't even been in control of this club for two years. It takes time to rebuild a decimated franchise. Ask John Hart from his early days in Cleveland, and Mark Shapiro currently in Cleveland, and Dave Dombrowski in Detroit, and so on and so on.

05-27-2007, 08:12 PM	#12
George Anderson Beer is good!! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 4,116	Re: Castellini doesn't want to win!! Lets see, Lets spend a million plus dollars on a franchise so we can lose!!!!! Right on Daddy O!!!!!! __________________ "Boys, I'm one of those umpires that misses 'em every once in a while so if it's close, you'd better hit it." Cal Hubbard Last edited by George Anderson; 05-27-2007 at 08:16 PM.

05-27-2007, 08:31 PM	#13
Doro Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 190	Re: Castellini doesn't want to win!! yep I'm sure he likes losing. This sounds like crap on talk radio.

05-28-2007, 11:21 AM	#15
Ludwig Reds Fan Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 240	Re: Castellini doesn't want to win!! I ran into Bob yesterday I was like, "Bob! Are you trying to lose or what?" He was like, "yep. Thats my secret plan. But don't tell anyone. " /end sarcasm __________________ L.A. manager Grady Little had a bad feeling about Wednesday's game when he saw Harang and pitching coach Dick Pole walking in after Harang's warmup. "I saw two big men," Little said. "Either could have shut us out tonight."

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