Mike Stanton's past 4 weeks - RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion

Danny Serafini · 06-11-2007, 09:03 AM

1.32 ERA
1.39 WHIP
7.90 K/9
1.32 BB/9
6.00 K/BB

With all the calls to dump him and eat his contract, I thought this was interesting.

redsfan30 · 06-11-2007, 09:11 AM

He's been much, much better recently. Some of those curve balls he threw in the 8th inning yesterday afternoon were just plain sick.

Always Red · 06-11-2007, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by redsfan30

He's been much, much better recently. Some of those curve balls he threw in the 8th inning yesterday afternoon were just plain sick.

Yes, they were.

For as much as we beat on him earlier in the year (and he deserved it), I will tip my cap to him now, because he has pitched well of late.

redsmetz · 06-11-2007, 09:18 AM

What I saw on Friday night was very impressive. I believe this is the pitcher WK was looking for when he signed him. That said, I've always assumed that Stanton's contract was structure to move him if something of value comes along. But I'd never DFA him - he'll have some value somewhere, whether on our staff or bringing prospects in a trade.

Ltlabner · 06-11-2007, 09:33 AM

He was definatley much more effective yesterday. He'll never be a world beater but I have to tip the cap to him for an excellent performance yesterday.

I'd still be on the phones non-stop trying to move him, however.

Sea Ray · 06-11-2007, 09:42 AM

What are his stats on inherited runners scoring? A guy like Stanton, a situational lefty, can't really be judged solely on the stats you posted.

He was throwing well in April and he's back to looking like that now.

jojo · 06-11-2007, 09:49 AM

Basically pitchers lacking the ability make hitters miss will be pretty volatile concerning their performance.

PuffyPig · 06-11-2007, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jojo

Basically pitchers lacking the ability make hitters miss will be pretty volatile concerning their performance.

Stanton has the ability to miss bats, his K rate has always been good.His K rate of 6.85 (and increasing) per 9 innings is right in line with his career rate of 7.28.

His DIPS ERA is 3.62 so he's not doing it with mirrors.

MrCinatit · 06-11-2007, 09:57 AM

When Wayne began bringing in the old guys (Stanton, Conine, et al), I had hopes that they would be used as trade deadline bait, should we be out of it by the middle of the year.
I still have hopes that will come to fruition as the deadline approaches, and hopefully these signings will not be money burnt.
With this, I am hoping Stanton is simply helping us obtain a youngster or two who will help us in the future with his recent performance. It sometimes seems lefties are in need - no matter how old - near the end of the season.

Joseph · 06-11-2007, 10:01 AM

I'm not a huge 'scout' type guy, but watching all the way from out in LF yesterday I noticed that Stanton significantly slowed his delivery on his off speed stuff. If I could pick up on that, its no wonder that major leaguers have hit him around. I suspect they will start to do so again and we'll all be back to complaining.

Sea Ray · 06-11-2007, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MrCinatit

When Wayne began bringing in the old guys (Stanton, Conine, et al), I had hopes that they would be used as trade deadline bait, should we be out of it by the middle of the year.
I still have hopes that will come to fruition as the deadline approaches, and hopefully these signings will not be money burnt.
With this, I am hoping Stanton is simply helping us obtain a youngster or two who will help us in the future with his recent performance. It sometimes seems lefties are in need - no matter how old - near the end of the season.

My problem is with the 2 yr contract he gave Stanton. I could be wrong but I think that'll be a deterent to moving him at the deadline.

KoryMac5 · 06-11-2007, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Ray

My problem is with the 2 yr contract he gave Stanton. I could be wrong but I think that'll be a deterent to moving him at the deadline.

You only have to make one call in order to move Stanton. The Yankees are starting their midseason climb but are desperate for a lefty. Stanton would be a perfect fit on that club.

paulrichjr · 06-11-2007, 11:27 AM

I'm glad someone started this thread because I have meant to do this for two days now. The guy was awesome all weekend and has been for quite some time. I think if he continues and we don't put up a 16 out of 20 win streak or something to get back in it, he will be very tradeable even with his contract. In fact his contract might even help. A team looking to make the playoffs knows exactly what he is capable of because of his track record. With the market for relievers being horrible right now a reliever that is "good" (like now) and with playoff experience (like Stanton's) will be very valuable in July.

redsmetz · 06-11-2007, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by KoryMac5

You only have to make one call in order to move Stanton. The Yankees are starting their midseason climb but are desperate for a lefty. Stanton would be a perfect fit on that club.

I continue to think you are right with this contract. I think too, the same may be true for either Conine and/or Hatteberg. For that matter, should Freel heal up, I think his contract is moveable. I very well could be wrong, but I think this has been WK's method since he arrived here. It doesn't always work (e.g. Cormier), but from time to time, it will. Of course, we'll see.

KronoRed · 06-11-2007, 12:29 PM

Glad to see him get hot, trade bait.

06-11-2007, 09:03 AM	#1
Danny Serafini 15 game winner Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sultanes de Monterrey Posts: 4,172	Mike Stanton's past 4 weeks 1.32 ERA 1.39 WHIP 7.90 K/9 1.32 BB/9 6.00 K/BB With all the calls to dump him and eat his contract, I thought this was interesting.

06-11-2007, 09:11 AM	#2
redsfan30 Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,545	Re: Mike Stanton's past 4 weeks He's been much, much better recently. Some of those curve balls he threw in the 8th inning yesterday afternoon were just plain sick. __________________ "Strickland Propane... Taste the meat, not the heat." - Hank Hill

06-11-2007, 09:18 AM	#4
redsmetz Redsmetz Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Winton Place Posts: 10,455	Re: Mike Stanton's past 4 weeks What I saw on Friday night was very impressive. I believe this is the pitcher WK was looking for when he signed him. That said, I've always assumed that Stanton's contract was structure to move him if something of value comes along. But I'd never DFA him - he'll have some value somewhere, whether on our staff or bringing prospects in a trade.

06-11-2007, 09:33 AM	#5
Ltlabner 2009: Fail Join Date: May 2006 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 7,441	Re: Mike Stanton's past 4 weeks He was definatley much more effective yesterday. He'll never be a world beater but I have to tip the cap to him for an excellent performance yesterday. I'd still be on the phones non-stop trying to move him, however. __________________ a super volcano of ridonkulous suckitude. I simply don't have access to a "cares about RBI" place in my psyche. There is a "mildly curious about OBI%" alcove just before the acid filled lake guarded by robot snipers with lasers which leads to the "cares about RBI" antechamber though. - Nate

06-11-2007, 09:42 AM	#6
Sea Ray Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 15,255	Re: Mike Stanton's past 4 weeks What are his stats on inherited runners scoring? A guy like Stanton, a situational lefty, can't really be judged solely on the stats you posted. He was throwing well in April and he's back to looking like that now.

06-11-2007, 09:49 AM	#7
jojo Five Tool Fool Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 16,575	Re: Mike Stanton's past 4 weeks Basically pitchers lacking the ability make hitters miss will be pretty volatile concerning their performance. __________________ "This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner

06-11-2007, 09:57 AM	#9
MrCinatit Baseball card addict Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Piqua Posts: 4,426	Re: Mike Stanton's past 4 weeks When Wayne began bringing in the old guys (Stanton, Conine, et al), I had hopes that they would be used as trade deadline bait, should we be out of it by the middle of the year. I still have hopes that will come to fruition as the deadline approaches, and hopefully these signings will not be money burnt. With this, I am hoping Stanton is simply helping us obtain a youngster or two who will help us in the future with his recent performance. It sometimes seems lefties are in need - no matter how old - near the end of the season. __________________ whisper words of wisdom I wrote a book! My AmazonShort My other AmazonShort

06-11-2007, 10:01 AM	#10
Joseph Tired of talk. Win! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,125	Re: Mike Stanton's past 4 weeks I'm not a huge 'scout' type guy, but watching all the way from out in LF yesterday I noticed that Stanton significantly slowed his delivery on his off speed stuff. If I could pick up on that, its no wonder that major leaguers have hit him around. I suspect they will start to do so again and we'll all be back to complaining. __________________ Championships for MY teams in my lifetime: Cincinnati Reds - 75, 76, 90 Chicago Blackhawks - 10 University of Kentucky - 78, 96, 98, 12 Cincinnati Bengals - None Chicago Bulls - 91, 92, 93, 96, 97, 98

06-11-2007, 11:27 AM	#13
paulrichjr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Savannah, TN Posts: 2,775	Re: Mike Stanton's past 4 weeks I'm glad someone started this thread because I have meant to do this for two days now. The guy was awesome all weekend and has been for quite some time. I think if he continues and we don't put up a 16 out of 20 win streak or something to get back in it, he will be very tradeable even with his contract. In fact his contract might even help. A team looking to make the playoffs knows exactly what he is capable of because of his track record. With the market for relievers being horrible right now a reliever that is "good" (like now) and with playoff experience (like Stanton's) will be very valuable in July. __________________ Tim McCarver: Baseball Quotes I remember one time going out to the mound to talk with Bob Gibson. He told me to get back behind the batter, that the only thing I knew about pitching was that it was hard to hit.

06-11-2007, 12:29 PM	#15
KronoRed The Lineups stink. Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: West N. Carolina Posts: 55,343	Re: Mike Stanton's past 4 weeks Glad to see him get hot, trade bait. __________________ Go Gators!

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