how about this 3-way deal idea between Dodgers/Reds/Pirates??? - RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion

redsfan4445 · 06-13-2007, 08:32 AM

I was thinking,, The Dodgers might want Dunn and i like what they have but i also like Jason Bay.. how about this

Dodgers get :
Dunn(LF) (from Reds)
Coffey (RP)(from Reds)
Prospect from Pirates

Reds get:
Bay (LF)(from Pirates)
Broxton (RP)(From L.A.)
Billingsly(SP)(From L.A.)

Pirates get
Kemp (OF)(From L.A.)
Travis Wood (SP)(from Reds)
Brad Salmon RP(from REDS)

Razor Shines · 06-13-2007, 08:38 AM

Jason Bay is very cheap all the way through 2009, I can't imagine why the Pirates would give him up. But yeah I'd take that deal if we could get it.

HotCorner · 06-13-2007, 09:26 AM

No chance. The Pirates get royaly screwed in that deal. Why would the Pirates trade Bay for that type of return?

Krusty · 06-13-2007, 09:27 AM

I doubt the Dodgers would part with Kemp, Broxton and Billingsley all in the same deal.

PuffyPig · 06-13-2007, 10:02 AM

I doubt that the Pirates trade Bay simply because " you like him".

Because that could be their only reason to do the above.They aren't going to tade Bay without getting back some major pieces.

Bay, Broxton and Billingsley (along with Dunn, who's probably 3rd) have, arguably, the greatest trade value of the players involved , and we get 3 of the top 4.

schroomytunes · 06-13-2007, 10:05 AM

That trade is very lopsided towards us, and yes the pirates get screwed in that deal, but the return would be great in a fantasy world. If Dunn is moved to the Dodgers it would be in a deal more like this IMHO.

Reds Trade:
1)Adam Dunn(LF)-The Dodgers get their true middle of the order power bat that they have been lacking.

2)Kyle Lohse(SP)-They get a cheap back end of the rotation guy who will be a FA after the year that will help solidify the rotation to make the push for the division/wild card. Lohse would benefit from playing in Dodger stadium, and is a California native too.

Dodgers Trade:
1)Andre Ethier-The Reds get a good young solid hitter who can play the corner outfield position, and would probably bat #2 or #6 in the batting order. He is capable of hitting 15-20 hr's driving in 80+ runs and hitting .280+

2)Chad Billingsley-The Reds get a young 23yr old righty who can take over the #5 spot in the rotation immediately, and allows them to be set in the rotation in the years to come. This allows them to focus on acquiring bats for 08, and bullpen help.

3)Johnathon Meloan- A 23yr old righty reliever who has the tools to be a closer in the big leagues. Currently in AA, and is one of the better reliever prospects in the minors. Would at worst be a set-up man in the majors.

RedsManRick · 06-13-2007, 10:20 AM

You guys do realize that the Dodgers have 6 starters right now and don't need a 7th.

Johnny Footstool · 06-13-2007, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redsfan4445

I was thinking,, The Dodgers might want Dunn and i like what they have but i also like Jason Bay.. how about this

Dodgers get :
Dunn(LF) (from Reds)
Coffey (RP)(from Reds)
Prospect from Pirates

Reds get:
Bay (LF)(from Pirates)
Broxton (RP)(From L.A.)
Billingsly(SP)(From L.A.)

Pirates get
Kemp (OF)(From L.A.)
Travis Wood (SP)(from Reds)
Brad Salmon RP(from REDS)

Dodgers get:
Bay

Pirates get:
Broxton
Billingsly
Kemp

Why would they need to involve the Reds at all?

Krusty · 06-13-2007, 11:21 AM

How about it just being Dunn for Kemp and Broxton and don't include the Pirates?

pedro · 06-13-2007, 11:23 AM

If Jason bay wee to be on the move in a trade the Dodgers wouldn't even bother with DUNN IMO.

KoryMac5 · 06-13-2007, 11:31 AM

If Bay were to be traded the fans would burn PNC park down to the ground.

Johnny Footstool · 06-13-2007, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krusty

How about it just being Dunn for Kemp and Broxton and don't include the Pirates?

I'd do that deal.

RedEye · 06-13-2007, 04:57 PM

If the Reds got Bay, Broxton and Billingsley in one deal while only losing Dunn and Coffey, we would have to coronate Wayne best GM ever. That is, it's NEVER going to happen.

flyer85 · 06-13-2007, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krusty

How about it just being Dunn for Kemp and Broxton and don't include the Pirates?

I can't see the Dodgers trading Broxton, he is too important to the current team.

I think they would deal Billingsley but I am not sure they would part with Kemp either as they lack RH OF bats.

WVRed · 06-13-2007, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KoryMac5

If Bay were to be traded the fans would burn PNC park down to the ground.

Not so much. If the Steelers traded Roethlisberger, that might be the case. Football is still supreme in Steeltown.

I think any deal involving the Dodgers would have to start around Clayton Kershaw or Andy LaRoche(even though we have Edwin). I'm not even sure if Clayton can be moved. Billingsley would be nice too though.

06-13-2007, 08:32 AM	#1
redsfan4445 Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Cincinnati Ohio Posts: 2,732	how about this 3-way deal idea between Dodgers/Reds/Pirates??? I was thinking,, The Dodgers might want Dunn and i like what they have but i also like Jason Bay.. how about this Dodgers get : Dunn(LF) (from Reds) Coffey (RP)(from Reds) Prospect from Pirates Reds get: Bay (LF)(from Pirates) Broxton (RP)(From L.A.) Billingsly(SP)(From L.A.) Pirates get Kemp (OF)(From L.A.) Travis Wood (SP)(from Reds) Brad Salmon RP(from REDS)

06-13-2007, 09:26 AM	#3
HotCorner Big League Choo! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The 513 Posts: 2,157	Re: how about this 3-way deal idea between Dodgers/Reds/Pirates??? No chance. The Pirates get royaly screwed in that deal. Why would the Pirates trade Bay for that type of return? __________________ YouTube - Randy Pausch Last Lecture: Achieving Your Childhood Dreams Baseball Stars Rocks!

06-13-2007, 09:27 AM	#4
Krusty Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Williamsport, PA Posts: 12,311	Re: how about this 3-way deal idea between Dodgers/Reds/Pirates??? I doubt the Dodgers would part with Kemp, Broxton and Billingsley all in the same deal. __________________ If you think small, you'll go nowhere in life.

06-13-2007, 10:20 AM	#7
RedsManRick Stat Wanker Hodiernus Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 14,919	Re: how about this 3-way deal idea between Dodgers/Reds/Pirates??? You guys do realize that the Dodgers have 6 starters right now and don't need a 7th. __________________ Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

06-13-2007, 11:21 AM	#9
Krusty Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Williamsport, PA Posts: 12,311	Re: how about this 3-way deal idea between Dodgers/Reds/Pirates??? How about it just being Dunn for Kemp and Broxton and don't include the Pirates? __________________ If you think small, you'll go nowhere in life.

06-13-2007, 08:38 AM	#2
Razor Shines Licking County Settlers Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 6,174	Re: how about this 3-way deal idea between Dodgers/Reds/Pirates??? Jason Bay is very cheap all the way through 2009, I can't imagine why the Pirates would give him up. But yeah I'd take that deal if we could get it. __________________ "three dimes, a one hundred dollar bill and and 87 ones..."

06-13-2007, 10:02 AM	#5
PuffyPig Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,733	Re: how about this 3-way deal idea between Dodgers/Reds/Pirates??? I doubt that the Pirates trade Bay simply because " you like him". Because that could be their only reason to do the above.They aren't going to tade Bay without getting back some major pieces. Bay, Broxton and Billingsley (along with Dunn, who's probably 3rd) have, arguably, the greatest trade value of the players involved , and we get 3 of the top 4.

06-13-2007, 10:05 AM	#6
schroomytunes Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: wilmington n.c. Posts: 928	Re: how about this 3-way deal idea between Dodgers/Reds/Pirates??? That trade is very lopsided towards us, and yes the pirates get screwed in that deal, but the return would be great in a fantasy world. If Dunn is moved to the Dodgers it would be in a deal more like this IMHO. Reds Trade: 1)Adam Dunn(LF)-The Dodgers get their true middle of the order power bat that they have been lacking. 2)Kyle Lohse(SP)-They get a cheap back end of the rotation guy who will be a FA after the year that will help solidify the rotation to make the push for the division/wild card. Lohse would benefit from playing in Dodger stadium, and is a California native too. Dodgers Trade: 1)Andre Ethier-The Reds get a good young solid hitter who can play the corner outfield position, and would probably bat #2 or #6 in the batting order. He is capable of hitting 15-20 hr's driving in 80+ runs and hitting .280+ 2)Chad Billingsley-The Reds get a young 23yr old righty who can take over the #5 spot in the rotation immediately, and allows them to be set in the rotation in the years to come. This allows them to focus on acquiring bats for 08, and bullpen help. 3)Johnathon Meloan- A 23yr old righty reliever who has the tools to be a closer in the big leagues. Currently in AA, and is one of the better reliever prospects in the minors. Would at worst be a set-up man in the majors.

06-13-2007, 11:23 AM	#10
pedro Please come again Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: portland, oregon Posts: 14,716	Re: how about this 3-way deal idea between Dodgers/Reds/Pirates??? If Jason bay wee to be on the move in a trade the Dodgers wouldn't even bother with DUNN IMO. __________________ Get your nunchucks and the keys to your dad's car. I know where we can get a gun

06-13-2007, 11:31 AM	#11
KoryMac5 Kmac5 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Waterloo, NY Posts: 3,661	Re: how about this 3-way deal idea between Dodgers/Reds/Pirates??? If Bay were to be traded the fans would burn PNC park down to the ground. __________________ If you have a losing record at Reds games, please stop going.

06-13-2007, 04:57 PM	#13
RedEye Ojo Rojo Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Moving to Atlanta in July Posts: 4,430	Re: how about this 3-way deal idea between Dodgers/Reds/Pirates??? If the Reds got Bay, Broxton and Billingsley in one deal while only losing Dunn and Coffey, we would have to coronate Wayne best GM ever. That is, it's NEVER going to happen. __________________ "It's a dog-eat-dog world and I'm wearing milkbone underwear." - Norm (George Wendt), Cheers

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