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mth123 · 06-17-2007, 11:17 AM

The Reds put Stanton on the DL today and recalled Michael Gosling. Gosling gets no mention on here, but this year working as a starter his stats:

70.67 IP, 3.06 ERA, 7.26 K/9, 2.67 BB/9, .89 HR/9, .297 BABIP, 3.89 FIP.

A lefty that can go multi-innings. Can probably lose his weakest pitch in the pen. He's still only 26. I think he should stay up the rest of the year and see if he can be a cheap LH swingman in 2008. This is a more interesting arm than people think IMO.

Hoosier Red · 06-17-2007, 11:25 AM

I imagine the disaster that was last year's stint in the majors probably colors some people's perceptions but I'm willing to take your word for it Mth.

RedLegSuperStar · 06-17-2007, 11:26 AM

with the inconsistancy of Lohse and Belisle.. you think one of them could be bumped to the pen and Gosling being named a starter?

Matt700wlw · 06-17-2007, 11:26 AM

Mike did look a little funny running to first last night....

Kc61 · 06-17-2007, 11:29 AM

Interesting that Gosling gets the nod over Dumatrait.

PuffyPig · 06-17-2007, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RedLegSuperStar

with the inconsistancy of Lohse and Belisle.. you think one of them could be bumped to the pen and Gosling being named a starter?

Lohse has a DIPS ERA of 3.87, Belisle 3.93.

There's zero chance either is going to the bullpen at this stage.

RedLegSuperStar · 06-17-2007, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Kc61

Interesting that Gosling gets the nod over Dumatrait.

last 10 games Dumatrait is 3-4 w/ a 4.55 era and 27k/25bb

whereas Gosling is 5-3 w/ 3.00 era and 53k/16bb in his last 10

mth123 · 06-17-2007, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoosier Red

I imagine the disaster that was last year's stint in the majors probably colors some people's perceptions but I'm willing to take your word for it Mth.

Don't take my word. I'm not that smart. But last year he had one appearance for 1.333 innings so that is a little tough to judge. He may be a disaster but I'd rather find out about a 26 Y/O kid than keep going with some of these others. In AAA this year he seems to have gotten his command in order. His Ks are up and his BBs are down. He had shoulder troubles while in Arizona and perhaps he's just now bouncing back all the way from that. Prior to his shoulder issues he was thought of as a potential number 2 or 3 starter. He wouldn't be the first guy to emerge years later while still young as a decent reliever.

May as well find out. I'm simply optimistic about the opportunity.

Falls City Beer · 06-17-2007, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by PuffyPig

Lohse has a DIPS ERA of 3.87, Belisle 3.93.

There's zero chance either is going to the bullpen at this stage.

I agree that it's unlikely they'll be moved from the rotation, but I think Belisle's a unique case; he's moving out into uncharted waters as a MLB starter. Who knows if he's going to unravel?

Big Klu · 06-17-2007, 12:02 PM

If he sticks, it could mean the end for Victor Santos. A lefty who can also serve as a long man fills multiple roles in the bullpen.

edabbs44 · 06-17-2007, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by PuffyPig

Lohse has a DIPS ERA of 3.87, Belisle 3.93.

There's zero chance either is going to the bullpen at this stage.

They could have a DIPS ERA of zero...if they don't step it up pretty soon, they should go to the bullpen.

chicoruiz · 06-17-2007, 12:13 PM

So now we have Stanton, Bray and Everyday Eddie as lefties trying to get back to Cincy. Be interesting to see who gets the call first...

Big Klu · 06-17-2007, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by chicoruiz

So now we have Stanton, Bray and Everyday Eddie as lefties trying to get back to Cincy. Be interesting to see who gets the call first...

I think that the one who would have been considered the longest of longshots at the beginning of the season will make it back first--Guardado. Now whether he should be back this soon is another matter.

RedsManRick · 06-17-2007, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by edabbs44

They could have a DIPS ERA of zero...if they don't step it up pretty soon, they should go to the bullpen.

The whole point of DIPS is pointing out that the defense is who needs to step it up, not them.

KronoRed · 06-17-2007, 12:53 PM

I wouldn't expect the D to suddenly change how they are

06-17-2007, 11:17 AM	#1
mth123 The Big Dog Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,659	Stanton DL; Gosling up The Reds put Stanton on the DL today and recalled Michael Gosling. Gosling gets no mention on here, but this year working as a starter his stats: 70.67 IP, 3.06 ERA, 7.26 K/9, 2.67 BB/9, .89 HR/9, .297 BABIP, 3.89 FIP. A lefty that can go multi-innings. Can probably lose his weakest pitch in the pen. He's still only 26. I think he should stay up the rest of the year and see if he can be a cheap LH swingman in 2008. This is a more interesting arm than people think IMO. __________________ "All I can tell them is pick a good one and sock it." --BABE RUTH Having better players makes "the right time" or "the big hit" happen a lot more often. PLUS PLUS

06-17-2007, 11:25 AM	#2
Hoosier Red Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 6,853	Re: Stanton DL; Gosling up I imagine the disaster that was last year's stint in the majors probably colors some people's perceptions but I'm willing to take your word for it Mth. __________________ When people say that I don’t know what I’m talking about when it comes to sports or writing, I think: Man, you should see me in the rest of my life. ---Joe Posnanski

06-17-2007, 11:26 AM	#3
RedLegSuperStar Greatness In The Making Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 4,078	Re: Stanton DL; Gosling up with the inconsistancy of Lohse and Belisle.. you think one of them could be bumped to the pen and Gosling being named a starter? __________________ "I could watch video of Griffey swinging all day. It's like baseball porn." - C. Trent Rosecrans 2008 Reds Record When I Attend: 9W - 5L 2009 Reds Record When I Attend: 1W - 2L 2010 Reds Record When I Attend: 1W - 0L 2011 Reds Record When I Attend: 0W - 1L

06-17-2007, 11:26 AM	#4
Matt700wlw Making sense of it all Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 26,129	Re: Stanton DL; Gosling up Mike did look a little funny running to first last night.... __________________ An excited shade of Red

06-17-2007, 11:29 AM	#5
Kc61 Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 10,819	Re: Stanton DL; Gosling up Interesting that Gosling gets the nod over Dumatrait.

06-17-2007, 12:02 PM	#10
Big Klu Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cambridge, OH Posts: 16,270	Re: Stanton DL; Gosling up If he sticks, it could mean the end for Victor Santos. A lefty who can also serve as a long man fills multiple roles in the bullpen. __________________ Americans love a winner. Americans will not tolerate a loser....Americans play to win all of the time. I wouldn't give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed...the very idea of losing is hateful to an American. Gen. George S. Patton, Jr.

06-17-2007, 12:13 PM	#12
chicoruiz Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 1,662	Re: Stanton DL; Gosling up So now we have Stanton, Bray and Everyday Eddie as lefties trying to get back to Cincy. Be interesting to see who gets the call first... __________________ "In baseball, you don't know nothin'"...Yogi Berra

06-17-2007, 12:53 PM	#15
KronoRed The Lineups stink. Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: West N. Carolina Posts: 55,342	Re: Stanton DL; Gosling up I wouldn't expect the D to suddenly change how they are __________________ Go Gators!

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