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Matt700wlw · 07-06-2007, 01:59 PM

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/ar...m-in-baseball/

Now that would make a statement...

Unassisted · 07-06-2007, 02:36 PM

Search the forum for "DePodesta" and you'll find that the guy has a large and vocal set of advocates here.

While his baseball acumen is substantial, he was alleged to have the abrasive personality of Brad Kullman. Others allege that he's wedded to the coasts and would never consider a gig in a landlocked market like Cincinnati. I think he'd definitely innovate in Cincinnati, but he's probably too avant-garde for Bob Castellini's taste.

dougdirt · 07-06-2007, 02:36 PM

dougdirt?

It would be nice.

Benihana · 07-06-2007, 02:38 PM

Interesting 2 cents from a Dodger fan friend of mine on DePodesta:

"Yeah, he got in a lot of trouble for trading Lo Duca but I am glad that we got Martin now. Of course, he thought that the future was Dioner Navarro and if he didn’t get injured Martin would be blocked. He also refused to trade Edwin Jackson and Greg Miller. Getting Penny has been great and I’m not as enthusiastic about Lowe as the article. Lowe is very inconsistent. Hee Seop wasn’t going to be good regardless of the injury. He also got Milton Bradley which caused a lot of internal problems. I am totally hating on him right now. Coletti blew it this past offseason but other than that has been solid."

Just interesting to see the other side of the argument.

KronoRed · 07-06-2007, 02:43 PM

The beat writers in this town would be 10 times worse then the ones that helped get him canned in LA

BCubb2003 · 07-06-2007, 02:50 PM

If you really wanted to blow things up, that would be the way to go.

missionhockey21 · 07-06-2007, 03:11 PM

Uh yeah, this was the choice to make the past two failed selections and he has gotten virtually no interest from what I detected from this organization. I would like it, but the figureheads of ultimate opinions on the Reds would loathe him and thusly the majority of the fanbase would too.

remdog · 07-06-2007, 03:17 PM

I probably wouldn't mind too much. It would make for a very interesting summer in '08 regardless of how good the Reds were. Think of all the sub-plots:

--Watch Marty totally melt down in the booth by May 1.

--Will Thom come down on Daddy's side or decide to think for himself?

--Could Depodesta communicate with the 'Beer and Brat' fans or would there be a total disconnect. He'd have to change a whole culture.

--Would Depo and Hal become buddies that see things the same way?

--How would Gonzo feel about playing SS in Cincinnati now?

--How will Javy like Miami?

--Would Depo embrace Cincinnati fashion and take satorial tips from C. Trent?

There are so many possibilities here!

Rem

dougdirt · 07-06-2007, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by remdog

--Would Depo embrace Cincinnati fashion and take satorial tips from C. Trent?

Rem

As long as he stayed away from leather pants, then he should be good.

cincyinco · 07-06-2007, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by missionhockey21

Uh yeah, this was the choice to make the past two failed selections and he has gotten virtually no interest from what I detected from this organization. I would like it, but the figureheads of ultimate opinions on the Reds would loathe him and thusly the majority of the fanbase would too.

Curious.. I recall it being more the other way around.. DePo wasn't interested in Cincinnati...

Spitball · 07-06-2007, 05:39 PM

In my opinion, Paul DePodesta, like Billy Beane, achieved more fame from being in Moneyball than he possibly deserves. I have more faith in Krivsky who learned from Terry Ryan or anyone who has absorbed the philosophy of the Braves and can emulate the way John Schuerholz steers that franchise.

Falls City Beer · 07-06-2007, 05:44 PM

I know the worst employed GM in baseball...

dougdirt · 07-06-2007, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falls City Beer

I know the worst employed GM in baseball...

do they work for the Nationals..... or ESPN?

Falls City Beer · 07-06-2007, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dougdirt

do they work for the Nationals..... or ESPN?

"Works" wouldn't be the verb I'd use..."decimate" is a little better.

redsrule2500 · 07-06-2007, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by remdog

--Will Thom come down on Daddy's side or decide to think for himself?

Yes, because you can't think for yourself and agree with Marty

07-06-2007, 01:59 PM	#1
Matt700wlw Making sense of it all Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 26,130	The best unemployed GM in baseball... http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/ar...m-in-baseball/ Now that would make a statement... __________________ An excited shade of Red

07-06-2007, 02:36 PM	#2
Unassisted RZ Chamber of Commerce Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: San Antonio Posts: 13,221	Re: The best unemployed GM in baseball... Search the forum for "DePodesta" and you'll find that the guy has a large and vocal set of advocates here. While his baseball acumen is substantial, he was alleged to have the abrasive personality of Brad Kullman. Others allege that he's wedded to the coasts and would never consider a gig in a landlocked market like Cincinnati. I think he'd definitely innovate in Cincinnati, but he's probably too avant-garde for Bob Castellini's taste. __________________ /r/reds

07-06-2007, 02:36 PM	#3
dougdirt The Boss Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 30,659	Re: The best unemployed GM in baseball... dougdirt? It would be nice. __________________ www.redsminorleagues.com

07-06-2007, 02:38 PM	#4
Benihana Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 8,407	Re: The best unemployed GM in baseball... Interesting 2 cents from a Dodger fan friend of mine on DePodesta: "Yeah, he got in a lot of trouble for trading Lo Duca but I am glad that we got Martin now. Of course, he thought that the future was Dioner Navarro and if he didn’t get injured Martin would be blocked. He also refused to trade Edwin Jackson and Greg Miller. Getting Penny has been great and I’m not as enthusiastic about Lowe as the article. Lowe is very inconsistent. Hee Seop wasn’t going to be good regardless of the injury. He also got Milton Bradley which caused a lot of internal problems. I am totally hating on him right now. Coletti blew it this past offseason but other than that has been solid." Just interesting to see the other side of the argument. __________________ Go BLUE!!!

07-06-2007, 02:43 PM	#5
KronoRed The Lineups stink. Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: West N. Carolina Posts: 55,342	Re: The best unemployed GM in baseball... The beat writers in this town would be 10 times worse then the ones that helped get him canned in LA __________________ Go Gators!

07-06-2007, 02:50 PM	#6
BCubb2003 Haunted by walks Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Syracuse Posts: 6,294	Re: The best unemployed GM in baseball... If you really wanted to blow things up, that would be the way to go.

07-06-2007, 03:11 PM	#7
missionhockey21 Damn That Dunn Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,632	Re: The best unemployed GM in baseball... Uh yeah, this was the choice to make the past two failed selections and he has gotten virtually no interest from what I detected from this organization. I would like it, but the figureheads of ultimate opinions on the Reds would loathe him and thusly the majority of the fanbase would too.

07-06-2007, 03:17 PM	#8
remdog Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 7,941	Re: The best unemployed GM in baseball... I probably wouldn't mind too much. It would make for a very interesting summer in '08 regardless of how good the Reds were. Think of all the sub-plots: --Watch Marty totally melt down in the booth by May 1. --Will Thom come down on Daddy's side or decide to think for himself? --Could Depodesta communicate with the 'Beer and Brat' fans or would there be a total disconnect. He'd have to change a whole culture. --Would Depo and Hal become buddies that see things the same way? --How would Gonzo feel about playing SS in Cincinnati now? --How will Javy like Miami? --Would Depo embrace Cincinnati fashion and take satorial tips from C. Trent? There are so many possibilities here! Rem

07-06-2007, 05:39 PM	#11
Spitball Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Posts: 5,491	Re: The best unemployed GM in baseball... In my opinion, Paul DePodesta, like Billy Beane, achieved more fame from being in Moneyball than he possibly deserves. I have more faith in Krivsky who learned from Terry Ryan or anyone who has absorbed the philosophy of the Braves and can emulate the way John Schuerholz steers that franchise. __________________ "Colorless green ideas sleep furiously."- Noam Chomsky

07-06-2007, 05:44 PM	#12
Falls City Beer Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 24,098	Re: The best unemployed GM in baseball... I know the worst employed GM in baseball...

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