7-12-07 - Redlegs-Metropolitans at Queens

[The Baumer]

Have the Mets announcer been this snarky all day?

[Marc D]

Back to the normal routine

[KronoRed]

Ugh.

[VR]

Originally Posted by Matt700wlw

Do they teach these guys anything?

Absolutely.

Chicks did the longball.

[oneupper]

Originally Posted by The Baumer

Have the Mets announcer been this snarky all day?

Yep.

"REDS have to play .700 to finish at .500".

"That's why they're a last place team"...

etc..etc.

[Eric_Davis]

They weren't out-talented by the Mets today. A loser mentality lost that game.

Go on vacation for 3 days and the loser mentality comes back. So much for the change of manager. I hope Mackanin has a closed door meeting with all of them and berates them to no end.

The REDS should be embarrassed by each other.

[Eric_Davis]

Originally Posted by red-in-la

THAT at bat is why I am a Dunn not a supporter.....

Dunn rolled over on a pitch that he should be driving somewhere.....

Just bad.

Dunn has horrible discipline. He could care less what the condition of the game is with his at-bat. He's always going to do it his way. Can't wait until he's no longer a RED.

[The Baumer]

Originally Posted by oneupper

Yep.

"REDS have to play .700 to finish at .500".

"That's why they're a last place team"...

etc..etc.

My favorite was after Encarnacion stole second.

"You can do that when you're a last place team. You have nothing to lose...These guys have no pressure on them at all."

[Ltlabner]

Originally Posted by The Baumer

Have the Mets announcer been this snarky all day?

Snarky...check.

Condesending...check.

Tossing out useless bits of gibberish...check

Stating the obvious....check. (i.e. "lefties are in demand)

Listend to the last 3 innings of the Mets broadcast. People don't like Marty...fine. That's there perogative. But lets drop the charade that every other broadcast on radio by someone with a last name other than Brenneman is baseball nirvana.

[VR]

Originally Posted by Ltlabner

Snarky...check.

Condesending...check.

Tossing out useless bits of gibberish...check

Stating the obvious....check. (i.e. "lefties are in demand)

Listend to the last 3 innings of the Mets broadcast. People don't like Marty...fine. That's there perogative. But lets drop the charade that every other broadcast on radio by someone with a last name other than Brenneman is baseball nirvana.

Looks like Mets announcers were berating the opponent?

[oneupper]

Originally Posted by Eric_Davis

They weren't out-talented by the Mets today. A loser mentality lost that game.

Go on vacation for 3 days and the loser mentality comes back. So much for the change of manager. I hope Mackanin has a closed door meeting with all of them and berates them to no end.

The REDS should be embarrassed by each other.

Start with Mackanin. He now has transformed back into Narron.

His lineup took Griff and Dunn out of the game (1 for 6, two walks) and the management of the pitchers was textbook Narron.

Two runs against a pretty hittable SP. Pathetic.

[Kc61]

Originally Posted by oneupper

Start with Mackanin. He now has transformed back into Narron.

His lineup took Griff and Dunn out of the game (1 for 6, two walks) and the management of the pitchers was textbook Narron.

Two runs against a pretty hittable SP. Pathetic.

Two runs -- AND FOUR HITS. The Reds score on home runs only. They do not get hits. They always fail in bigger ballparks because they do not get base hits.

Everybody knocks batting average. You need some guys that get a lot of hits. The Reds don't have that.

[SteelSD]

Interesting. Apparently, we value "productive outs" except when Adam Dunn produces one that moves a runner into scoring position when down by one Run in the ninth inning with two strikes on him while facing a lefty hammer throwing 97 MPH.

[WVRedsFan]

Originally Posted by Ltlabner

Snarky...check.

Condesending...check.

Tossing out useless bits of gibberish...check

Stating the obvious....check. (i.e. "lefties are in demand)

Listend to the last 3 innings of the Mets broadcast. People don't like Marty...fine. That's there perogative. But lets drop the charade that every other broadcast on radio by someone with a last name other than Brenneman is baseball nirvana.

Exactly times two.

[Big Klu]

Originally Posted by Kc61

I think Hatteberg is great, but he is platooning. Why leave him in against lefty Feliciano in the eighth inning? Against the lefty, isn't Conine the better hitter? Mets gain the advantage lefty-lefty, Reds agree to the disadvantage.

Conine is not going to hit for Griffey, nor for Dunn, so Reds basically are unable to use good righty hitter against Mets lefty relievers.

Ok if Hatte plays against all pitchers, but he is a platoon guy. If so, platoon him.

I support the decision to leave Hatteberg in to hit for himself. It's true that Hatteberg and Conine are a platoon, but it is also a fact that whoever is not starting at 1B is undeniably the strongest bat on the bench that night (unless Griffey, Dunn, or maybe Phillips is getting a night off). I think that it is not very prudent to use your best bat off the bench (in tonight's case, Conine) for one of the better hitters in the lineup. Basically, the platoon determines who starts at 1B, but after the game begins that player remains at 1B for the duration of the game. (The same thing happens when Conine starts at 1B--you rarely, if ever, see Hatteberg PH for him.) Hatteberg and Conine might replace each other as part of a double-switch, but that's about it.

Originally Posted by Eric_Davis

Ross is the closest thing they have to a leader.

Griffey's not a leader. Never has been.

Dunn's not a leader. Never has been.

Gonzo's not a leader.

Freel's a disaster waiting to happen.

Hamilton's not a leader or he wouldn't do what he did.

Phillips isn't a leader.

Hopefully Votto is.

What about Hatteberg?