I've seen enough of Mackanin's lineups already - RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion

reds44 · 07-13-2007, 05:37 PM

Freel 3b
Hopper cf
Griffey rf
Phillips 2b
Dunn lf
Hatteberg 1b
Gonzalez ss
Ross c
Harang p

First it was Freel taking time for Edwin, now it's Hopper.

This guy is worse then Narron was.

Degenerate39 · 07-13-2007, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by reds44

Freel 3b
Hopper cf
Griffey rf
Phillips 2b
Dunn lf
Hatteberg 1b
Gonzalez ss
Ross c
Harang p

First it was Freel taking time for Edwin, now it's Hopper.

This guy is worse then Narron was.

If Castro wasn't hurt chances are we would've seen him today.

Jr's Boy · 07-13-2007, 05:51 PM

What's so bad about this order?A game without Ed E. and people call for Mac's head.

redhawkfish · 07-13-2007, 06:00 PM

I think(I hope) Freel is being showcased for a trade. EE is our 3B for many years. I don't worship EE, but he shouldn't sit more than once every couple weeks.

BLEEDS · 07-13-2007, 06:01 PM

Dude is right, we're NEVER going to win the Pennant with Hopper in there!

OR

Maybe, just MAYBE we're trying to give a day off for EE? and try to see what Hopper can do with 4 AB"s in the Same Game?

PEACE

-BLEEDS

jimbo · 07-13-2007, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by reds44

This guy is worse then Narron was.

I guess that goes to show that we should always be careful what we wish for.

I could tell from the minute he was hired, the way he was talking how he wanted to get everyone plenty of playing time that his lineup "musical chairs" was going to be worse than Narron's.

I just pray that his time in Cincinnati is brief. It's only been over a week or so, but color me unimpressed so far.

captainmorgan07 · 07-13-2007, 06:26 PM

no one will ever be satisfied around here if there favorite player isn't in the lineup. Maybe there playing the matchups don't everybody jump off the titanic because of one game. We complain where people hit let's see last time i checked the standings we still stink. So a new lineup everyonce in awhile aint gonna hurt anybody on this team.

He got it! · 07-13-2007, 06:36 PM

Making out the lineup is just one small part of being a manager. I don't understand why people say Pete sucks cause he leaves their favorite player out of the lineup or bats Dunn too high or too low. The guy is 5-2 and imo has handled the pitching staff and bench very well. Lets not mail in a ballgame before it even starts because your favorite Red isn't starting. None of the Reds with the exception of Jr. are playing good enough on offense and defense to be written down in a spot in the lineup in ink everyday.

jimbo · 07-13-2007, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by captainmorgan07

no one will ever be satisfied around here if there favorite player isn't in the lineup. Maybe there playing the matchups don't everybody jump off the titanic because of one game.

I can't speak for anyone else, but EE is not my favorite player. Having said that, he's the best option at 3B on this team and should be playing everyday. What's wrong with a little consistancy for a change? In my opinion, the only platoon position is 1B with Hattie and Conine. After that, with Hamilton out Freel should be the everyday CF and EE everyday 3B.

The concept of throwing a different lineup out there everyday based on matchups hasn't worked, so how about sticking with a set lineup for a change? What would it hurt? Let these players know what their long-term role is instead of it changing everyday.

Mitri · 07-13-2007, 07:05 PM

Edwin has sat, what, three of the eight games Pete has managed? Not ok in my book, but it's enough to get the "Freel showcase" speculation running through my head. Freel might be a real nice add-on to any of the players rumored to be traded away.
As for his lineup construction, anyone who bats Dunn lower than fourth has the wrong idea, or at least different from what I want to see. I do like the way he's utilized both Hatteberg and Hamilton so far though...we'll see.

captainmorgan07 · 07-13-2007, 07:13 PM

well looky here freel and hopper both reach in the first inning. Not saying edwin wouldn't of but let the game play out alittle before we complain about the lineup.

jmac · 07-13-2007, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by captainmorgan07

no one will ever be satisfied around here if there favorite player isn't in the lineup. Maybe there playing the matchups don't everybody jump off the titanic because of one game. We complain where people hit let's see last time i checked the standings we still stink. So a new lineup everyonce in awhile aint gonna hurt anybody on this team.

Yes...someone is gonna complain about every lineup so the mgr no matter who it is...will get it regardless.
As you stated, we are not 45-3 with EE in the lineup or Javy etc so mix it up alittle and see what works.

keeganbrick · 07-13-2007, 07:54 PM

Give it a rest with the lineup, someone is going to complain every night no matter what is ran out there. At least he consistantly splits Jr and Dunn with a righty

redsfanfalcon · 07-13-2007, 07:56 PM

He's 5-2, give him a break. I even questioned him last night keeping Burton in, but it worked out. So far, it's working out tonight.

jmac · 07-13-2007, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by redsfanfalcon

He's 5-2, give him a break. I even questioned him last night keeping Burton in, but it worked out. So far, it's working out tonight.

I wonder if he is looking at maybe giving him a few of Coffey's chances ?

07-13-2007, 05:37 PM	#1
reds44 #TheReturn Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 23,673	I've seen enough of Mackanin's lineups already Freel 3b Hopper cf Griffey rf Phillips 2b Dunn lf Hatteberg 1b Gonzalez ss Ross c Harang p First it was Freel taking time for Edwin, now it's Hopper. This guy is worse then Narron was.

07-13-2007, 05:51 PM	#3
Jr's Boy Firin Away Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,750	Re: I've seen enough of Mackanin's lineups already What's so bad about this order?A game without Ed E. and people call for Mac's head. Last edited by Jr's Boy; 07-13-2007 at 05:53 PM.

07-13-2007, 06:00 PM	#4
redhawkfish Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Miami township Posts: 519	Re: I've seen enough of Mackanin's lineups already I think(I hope) Freel is being showcased for a trade. EE is our 3B for many years. I don't worship EE, but he shouldn't sit more than once every couple weeks.

07-13-2007, 06:01 PM	#5
BLEEDS Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 2,128	Re: I've seen enough of Mackanin's lineups already Dude is right, we're NEVER going to win the Pennant with Hopper in there! OR Maybe, just MAYBE we're trying to give a day off for EE? and try to see what Hopper can do with 4 AB"s in the Same Game? PEACE -BLEEDS

07-13-2007, 06:26 PM	#7
captainmorgan07 got alil captain in u? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bridgeport Ohio Posts: 4,839	Re: I've seen enough of Mackanin's lineups already no one will ever be satisfied around here if there favorite player isn't in the lineup. Maybe there playing the matchups don't everybody jump off the titanic because of one game. We complain where people hit let's see last time i checked the standings we still stink. So a new lineup everyonce in awhile aint gonna hurt anybody on this team.

07-13-2007, 06:36 PM	#8
He got it! Hatteberg is Sean Casey Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bowling Green, OH Posts: 186	Re: I've seen enough of Mackanin's lineups already Making out the lineup is just one small part of being a manager. I don't understand why people say Pete sucks cause he leaves their favorite player out of the lineup or bats Dunn too high or too low. The guy is 5-2 and imo has handled the pitching staff and bench very well. Lets not mail in a ballgame before it even starts because your favorite Red isn't starting. None of the Reds with the exception of Jr. are playing good enough on offense and defense to be written down in a spot in the lineup in ink everyday. __________________ "YES! He rips it. Is it high enough? It's gonna be gone! Adam Dunn has done it again. Big #44 can take all day to round the bases here, thats done and gone- lookout dunner they're waitin for ya at home plate." - George Grand "Did that just happen?" - Chris Welsch

07-13-2007, 07:05 PM	#10
Mitri Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: New York Posts: 333	Re: I've seen enough of Mackanin's lineups already Edwin has sat, what, three of the eight games Pete has managed? Not ok in my book, but it's enough to get the "Freel showcase" speculation running through my head. Freel might be a real nice add-on to any of the players rumored to be traded away. As for his lineup construction, anyone who bats Dunn lower than fourth has the wrong idea, or at least different from what I want to see. I do like the way he's utilized both Hatteberg and Hamilton so far though...we'll see.

07-13-2007, 07:13 PM	#11
captainmorgan07 got alil captain in u? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bridgeport Ohio Posts: 4,839	Re: I've seen enough of Mackanin's lineups already well looky here freel and hopper both reach in the first inning. Not saying edwin wouldn't of but let the game play out alittle before we complain about the lineup.

07-13-2007, 07:54 PM	#13
keeganbrick Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 1,439	Re: I've seen enough of Mackanin's lineups already Give it a rest with the lineup, someone is going to complain every night no matter what is ran out there. At least he consistantly splits Jr and Dunn with a righty __________________ Cincinnati Reds VOTTO

07-13-2007, 07:56 PM	#14
redsfanfalcon Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 508	Re: I've seen enough of Mackanin's lineups already He's 5-2, give him a break. I even questioned him last night keeping Burton in, but it worked out. So far, it's working out tonight.

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