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Old 07-30-2007, 04:59 PM   #1
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Dumatrait to be promoted... or not

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Old 07-30-2007, 05:00 PM   #2
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dumatrait will be promoted...
Starting Thursday, I assume.

Anything else in the works?

Hoping maybe Conine and/or Freel are being talked about.
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Old 07-30-2007, 05:01 PM   #3
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Trainwreck waiting to happen unfortunately.

Phil cant throw enough strikes, and the ones he does throw don't miss enough bats.
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Old 07-30-2007, 05:03 PM   #4
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Trainwreck waiting to happen unfortunately.

Phil cant throw enough strikes, and the ones he does throw don't miss enough bats.
I recommend watching his starts through a filter of some sort. Watching Dumatrait pitch to major league batters with the naked eye could make you go blind.
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Trainwreck waiting to happen unfortunately.

Phil cant throw enough strikes, and the ones he does throw don't miss enough bats.
I agree. I'm not saying that Dumatrait is incapable of having 1 or 2 decent starts, but I don't think he can put up consistent starts on a regular basis.
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Trainwreck waiting to happen unfortunately.

Phil cant throw enough strikes, and the ones he does throw don't miss enough bats.
no that would be your boy homer and bronson.

Phil will do fine. Watch.
 
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I agree. I'm not saying that Dumatrait is incapable of having 1 or 2 decent starts, but I don't think he can put up consistent starts on a regular basis.
has anyone besides harang?? Didn't think so. Time to give phil a chance
 
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Re: Dumatrait to be promoted

His numbers in AAA are ugly.

I'm resigned to the thought that he is going to be pounded pretty badly in the big leagues. If that happens, hopefully a move to the bullpen can be considered. IMO, that's the only way he has a chance to be a useful player in the majors.
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Old 07-30-2007, 05:19 PM   #9
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KeyMastur.. is it a fact he will be promoted? Or just opinion?
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has anyone besides harang?? Didn't think so. Time to give phil a chance
Didn't say that well, I guess.

My point is that Dumatrait is not ready for MLB, even less so than Homer, IMO.

I'm thinking Jeff Austin type numbers for the rest of the year.
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Old 07-30-2007, 05:22 PM   #11
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I tried getting Dumatrait up here earlier, but as usual Wayne never listened to me.
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Old 07-30-2007, 05:24 PM   #12
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Time to give phil a chance
Not really. Frankly, it's never a good time to give Phil Dumatrait a chance because he's not a very good pitcher. He'd be third in my pecking order right now.

Gosling - Ramirez - Dumatrait
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Old 07-30-2007, 05:27 PM   #13
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Both Gosling and Ramirez have had a chance...Phil is yet to have one.
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Old 07-30-2007, 05:27 PM   #14
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I was hoping Dumatrait would be a guy we could leave in the minors and let him put up some decent win totals and ERA numbers and then use him as part of a trade package.

Sadly, I think once he hits the majors, he's going to pitch so poorly that people will see right through his minor league stats finally.
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Old 07-30-2007, 05:28 PM   #15
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no that would be your boy homer and bronson.

Phil will do fine. Watch.
First off, Bronson isnt my boy. Secondly, the large difference between Bailey and Dumatrait, you know aside from age, stuff, upside and all of that.... when Bailey throws strikes, people swing and miss a lot more often than they do when Dumatrait throws strikes.

Dumatrait against righties this year:

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Entire Season	ERA	IP	H	R	ER	HR	BB	SO	GO/AO	AVG
vs Right	3.53	86.2	78	39	34	7	37	47	0.87	.239
Check out that walk to strikeout ratio. That does not bode well at all for current of future success. He is 26 years old, so improvement isn't likely to all of a sudden come along.

He is striking out 1 more batter per 9 innings than he is walking against righties.

I just don't have enough faith in him to throw enough strikes at the major league level to be successful. Honestly, I would rather see Cueto or Fisher called up from AA before Dumatrait because I just think they would have more success.
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