Is Jr. a more likely waiver trade than Dunn? - RedsZone.com - Cincinnati Reds Fans' Home for Baseball Discussion

The Snow Chief · 08-02-2007, 04:20 PM

I think so. I don't think there is any way Dunn clears waivers. A team could just pick him up to rent for the season and only be on the hook for the rest of this year's contract.

To take Griffey, on the other hand, the team would have to take on his contract for big money next year, pay him $16M or a $4M buyout in 2009 (and I don't know about all that deferred money - maybe be on the hook for that as well). Very little liklihood someone would claim Jr. on waivers with that contract IMO. Therefore, I think we could see Jr. clear, the Reds offer to pick up part of his contract, and then look to trade Jr. to a contender for the best return (if Jr. consents).

Moosie52 · 08-02-2007, 04:26 PM

He's cleared waivers many times already.

Krawhitham · 08-02-2007, 04:47 PM

neither will clear this season, too many teams will want to block them two from going anywhere

JLB5 · 08-02-2007, 04:55 PM

I agree Griffey is more likely than Dunn. Actually, the only guy on the team that I am convinced will clear waivers is Stanton and they'd be lucky to trade him for a bucket of sunflower seeds. If somebody was willing to eat his contract, I'd take the deal.

REDblooded · 08-02-2007, 07:06 PM

I think Bowden would block anybody just to be a jerk.

ChatterRed · 08-02-2007, 08:41 PM

Bowden is a jerk.

BucksandReds · 08-02-2007, 08:46 PM

That would mean that we could dump any contract we want on Bowden.

AmarilloRed · 08-03-2007, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by The Snow Chief

I think so. I don't think there is any way Dunn clears waivers. A team could just pick him up to rent for the season and only be on the hook for the rest of this year's contract.

To take Griffey, on the other hand, the team would have to take on his contract for big money next year, pay him $16M or a $4M buyout in 2009 (and I don't know about all that deferred money - maybe be on the hook for that as well). Very little liklihood someone would claim Jr. on waivers with that contract IMO. Therefore, I think we could see Jr. clear, the Reds offer to pick up part of his contract, and then look to trade Jr. to a contender for the best return (if Jr. consents).

You said it all at the end of your post- "IF Jr. consents" Why would he consent now more than he has in the past? I expect Cincinnati is Griffey's retirement job. I expect he will play out his contract.

08-03-2007, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by JLB5

I agree Griffey is more likely than Dunn. Actually, the only guy on the team that I am convinced will clear waivers is Stanton and they'd be lucky to trade him for a bucket of sunflower seeds. If somebody was willing to eat his contract, I'd take the deal.

LOL

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Originally Posted by AmarilloRed

You said it all at the end of your post- "IF Jr. consents" Why would he consent now more than he has in the past? I expect Cincinnati is Griffey's retirement job. I expect he will play out his contract.

That does bring up and interesting question...do you think this will actually be where he retires from? With all that Seattle talk and all these other players ending where they made it big...maybe he'll do the same thing?

UC_Ken · 08-03-2007, 03:10 PM

Dunn= zero chance of clearing waivers. Which means you could only trade him to the team that claims him and you can only get back guys who have cleared waivers or guys who aren't on the 40 man roster, correct? In which case I don't want to trade Dunn for guys who other teams don't want.

Griffey- I don't think he clears this year either. He's only got one year plus an option left and the switch to RF has seemed to really help him stay healthy. And I don't want to trade him for another team's trash either.

08-03-2007, 05:02 PM

Griffey would clear waivers just because of his contract. Every year we hear how all these people could be traded after the deadline, but very few ever are. Take what you want from all these rumors, but I personally find it hard to get excited about them. A lot of times teams put players through waivers just to see if other teams have interest in them or just to have them ready in case an amazing deal would be offered. It doesn't necessarily mean the team wants to trade that player.

AmarilloRed · 08-04-2007, 01:55 AM

I really do believe he wants to retire here. He said some nice things about Seattle, but I think he will hit 600 hrs, and then play out 2008.It is possible he might play the option year, but that might be more unlikely with Bruce waiting.

08-02-2007, 04:20 PM	#1
The Snow Chief Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 184	Is Jr. a more likely waiver trade than Dunn? I think so. I don't think there is any way Dunn clears waivers. A team could just pick him up to rent for the season and only be on the hook for the rest of this year's contract. To take Griffey, on the other hand, the team would have to take on his contract for big money next year, pay him $16M or a $4M buyout in 2009 (and I don't know about all that deferred money - maybe be on the hook for that as well). Very little liklihood someone would claim Jr. on waivers with that contract IMO. Therefore, I think we could see Jr. clear, the Reds offer to pick up part of his contract, and then look to trade Jr. to a contender for the best return (if Jr. consents).

08-02-2007, 04:26 PM	#2
Moosie52 Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 563	Re: Is Jr. a more likely waiver trade than Dunn? He's cleared waivers many times already.

08-02-2007, 04:47 PM	#3
Krawhitham Retro-Gamer Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,630	Re: Is Jr. a more likely waiver trade than Dunn? neither will clear this season, too many teams will want to block them two from going anywhere

08-02-2007, 04:55 PM	#4
JLB5 Talkin' Baseball Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The 'Nati Posts: 278	Re: Is Jr. a more likely waiver trade than Dunn? I agree Griffey is more likely than Dunn. Actually, the only guy on the team that I am convinced will clear waivers is Stanton and they'd be lucky to trade him for a bucket of sunflower seeds. If somebody was willing to eat his contract, I'd take the deal.

08-02-2007, 07:06 PM	#5
REDblooded Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,119	Re: Is Jr. a more likely waiver trade than Dunn? I think Bowden would block anybody just to be a jerk.

08-02-2007, 08:41 PM	#6
ChatterRed Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Blue Ash Posts: 2,616	Re: Is Jr. a more likely waiver trade than Dunn? Bowden is a jerk. __________________ Who's on first?

08-02-2007, 08:46 PM	#7
BucksandReds Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Columbus Posts: 150	Re: Is Jr. a more likely waiver trade than Dunn? That would mean that we could dump any contract we want on Bowden.

08-03-2007, 03:10 PM	#10
UC_Ken Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Monfort Heights Posts: 524	Re: Is Jr. a more likely waiver trade than Dunn? Dunn= zero chance of clearing waivers. Which means you could only trade him to the team that claims him and you can only get back guys who have cleared waivers or guys who aren't on the 40 man roster, correct? In which case I don't want to trade Dunn for guys who other teams don't want. Griffey- I don't think he clears this year either. He's only got one year plus an option left and the switch to RF has seemed to really help him stay healthy. And I don't want to trade him for another team's trash either.

08-03-2007, 05:02 PM	#11
He can rake Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Is Jr. a more likely waiver trade than Dunn? Griffey would clear waivers just because of his contract. Every year we hear how all these people could be traded after the deadline, but very few ever are. Take what you want from all these rumors, but I personally find it hard to get excited about them. A lot of times teams put players through waivers just to see if other teams have interest in them or just to have them ready in case an amazing deal would be offered. It doesn't necessarily mean the team wants to trade that player.

08-04-2007, 01:55 AM	#12
AmarilloRed Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Amarillo,Texas Posts: 3,997	Re: Is Jr. a more likely waiver trade than Dunn? I really do believe he wants to retire here. He said some nice things about Seattle, but I think he will hit 600 hrs, and then play out 2008.It is possible he might play the option year, but that might be more unlikely with Bruce waiting.

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